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  • #11
    Originally posted by ANTONIM View Post
    your joking about not accomplishing as much as trinidad or ortiz right?3 weight titlist by the ripe ol' age of 23.i think he's more accomplished then both.obviously ortiz and gomez are more complete because they had power with skills,but benitez's skills where so good he didn't really need it.
    Compare his wins resume to that of Ortiz or Trinidad. I'm not talking about titles, they can be easily downgraded, but who you beat can't often be, unless the opponent was past his prime or it was on a technicality.

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    • #12
      benitez did had pop but he was better at being defensive just look at his fight with maurice hope.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Sweet Pete View Post
        Compare his wins resume to that of Ortiz or Trinidad. I'm not talking about titles, they can be easily downgraded, but who you beat can't often be, unless the opponent was past his prime or it was on a technicality.
        well let's be honest the fight vs leonard was even till that last round.that fight was stop prematurely,and he beat duran.so.in my opinion you can take and pick at anything from any fighter.fact is what he did probably will never be done again.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Sweet Pete View Post
          Are you serious? You don't get a draw by trying to survive for an entire fight and then coming on a bit late, while still getting outboxed.

          Anyways, Benitez was one of the best defensive fighters of all time in terms of movement, in his prime, maybe the most skilled in fact in terms of head movement and slipping punches. His performance at 17 against Cervantes was awesome.

          I don't consider him the best PR fighter ever though, didn't accompli9sh as much as someone like Ortiz or really even Trinidad.
          i don't really complain about that fight it was either a draw or a hearns victory im i agree even thou he was impressive by being a young champion he may not be the best from PR.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by ANTONIM View Post
            well let's be honest the fight vs leonard was even till that last round.that fight was stop prematurely,and he beat duran.so.in my opinion you can take and pick at anything from any fighter.fact is what he did probably will never be done again.
            He was past his prime by age 23, and did hardly anything else the rest of his career. He can't be rated that highly based on having a good few years. He beat Duran, that is a very good win, but otherwise, he lost to Leonard, and it was only close late, as Benitez started going for broke, as he was actually being outboxed for most of it. He lost to Hearns, beat Cervantes and Palomino. Very good fighter in his prime, but he didn't last, nor did he do enough throughout a full career to rank ahead of a guy like Ortiz.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Sweet Pete View Post
              He was past his prime by age 23, and did hardly anything else the rest of his career. He can't be rated that highly based on having a good few years. He beat Duran, that is a very good win, but otherwise, he lost to Leonard, and it was only close late, as Benitez started going for broke, as he was actually being outboxed for most of it. He lost to Hearns, beat Cervantes and Palomino. Very good fighter in his prime, but he didn't last, nor did he do enough throughout a full career to rank ahead of a guy like Ortiz.
              as far as the leonard fight that's your opinion.it was even to me untill the ko,and as far as past his prime by the time he was 23,most likely so was tyson,and many people think he's an all timer in the upper echelon.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by ANTONIM View Post
                as far as the leonard fight that's your opinion.it was even to me untill the ko,and as far as past his prime by the time he was 23,most likely so was tyson,and many people think he's an all timer in the upper echelon.
                Tyson actually accomplished a deal more when past his prime, and was quite a ways more dominant than Benitez in his prime. Either way though, Tyson is no top tier echelon ATG, some would argue he's not even a top 10 HW of all time. He is a top 10 HW in my book, but P4P? No way.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Sweet Pete View Post
                  Tyson actually accomplished a deal more when past his prime, and was quite a ways more dominant than Benitez in his prime. Either way though, Tyson is no top tier echelon ATG, some would argue he's not even a top 10 HW of all time. He is a top 10 HW in my book, but P4P? No way.
                  you have to take into account benitez's brain damage as well at the age of 27.in my opinion it wasn't something that just showed up.anyway,those are my sentimental favorites.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Azteca View Post
                    He cant hold Ortiz' jockstrap. Same with Wilfredo Gomez.

                    Other then, he's aight. He had some pretty crazy defensive skils ala Floyd Mayweather but more of a classic sense. I thought Hearns outboxed him.
                    Couldn't hold their jockstrap?! What!? Go through his career. He was easily as good as those guys. As good, not better. He was an amazing fighter who did amazing things. He beat some of the best competition ever!

                    Beat Cervantes for the LWW title then made some great defenses of it against top fighters like Emilliano Villa, Tony Petronelli.
                    Beat Carlos Palomino for the WW title and lost it Leonard. That was his first loss. Went on to beat Maurice Hope for the light Middleweight title defending that against many great fighters like Carlos Santos, Roberto Duran. Was then out-boxed by Hearns.
                    After Duran I think he thought he had done everything he could because after that he started losing to fighters he should have beat. Fought Hamsho whom he lost to and Davey Moore who was given a horrible beat-down by Duran only two fights earlier. Also lost to Matthew Hilton who was meant to be the next great fighter. His last decent win was against Paul Whittaker (20-0), I think his record was.

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                    • #20
                      yeh great fighter i gta admit he was dam gd

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