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  • #11
    Originally posted by Galveston Giant View Post
    Why is everyone voting Calzaghe for SMM? Is this guy that overrated?
    Who rates above him, please tell? Jones is the only candidate. As far as body of work at the weight, Calzaghe takes the cake, as far as head to head, Jones takes it, followed by Calzaghe. How is he overrated? I think he is pretty underrated to be honest.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Galveston Giant View Post
      Why is everyone voting Calzaghe for SMM? Is this guy that overrated?
      well who would you have your highness?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Sweet Pete View Post
        Who rates above him, please tell? Jones is the only candidate. As far as body of work at the weight, Calzaghe takes the cake, as far as head to head, Jones takes it, followed by Calzaghe. How is he overrated? I think he is pretty underrated to be honest.
        Spot on for the most part, there is no-one else in the picture! Although as for head to head I think its closer between him and RJJ than everyone credits him for, every one rates RJJ power against Calzaghe but if you see fights like the Byron Mitchell fight, where Calzaghe gets hurt or knocked down, his style changes goes toe-to-toe and as in that fight knocked the dude out in 60 secs, theres a lot more power in those gloves when he's hurt and up against it! Tough fight to call.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by ANTON THE GREAT View Post
          heavyweight.ali
          cruiser.holyfield
          l.heavy.archie moore
          smw.joe c
          mw.hagler
          lm.thomas hearns
          ww.robinson
          jww.pryor
          lw.whitaker
          s.fw.arguello
          fw.pep
          sbw.gomez
          bw.jofre
          fw.wilde
          l.fly.micheal carbajal
          minw.lopez
          Joe Louis- Hvy
          Evander Holyfield-190
          Archie Moore-175
          Roy Jones-168
          Carlos Monzon-160
          Tommy Hearns-154 This was a tough choice. Hearns didn't have a lot of longevity at this weight but was devastating. Trinidad was also impressive at this weight.
          Ray Robinson-147
          Aaron Pryor-140
          Roberto Duran-135
          Alexis Arguello-130
          Willie Pep-126
          Wilfredo Gomez-122
          Eder Jofre-118
          I would have to cheat and start looking up names after 118.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            Joe Louis- Hvy
            Evander Holyfield-190
            Archie Moore-175
            Roy Jones-168
            Carlos Monzon-160
            Tommy Hearns-154 This was a tough choice. Hearns didn't have a lot of longevity at this weight but was devastating. Trinidad was also impressive at this weight.
            Ray Robinson-147
            Aaron Pryor-140
            Roberto Duran-135
            Alexis Arguello-130
            Willie Pep-126
            Wilfredo Gomez-122
            Eder Jofre-118
            I would have to cheat and start looking up names after 118.
            What about Mike McCallum at LMW? I think he could be rated the number one, although Hearns was devastating as you said, with big wins over Benitez and Duran.
            McCallum never got the chance to fight Hearns or Duran at the weight but he beat other top junior middles and stayed there longer, leaving the division with a record of 32 wins, 29 KO's and no losses.
            Last edited by TheGreatA; 07-23-2008, 12:14 AM.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by TheManchine View Post
              What about Mike McCallum at LMW? I think he could be rated the number one, although Hearns was devastating as you said, with big wins over Benitez and Duran.
              McCallum never got the chance to fight Hearns or Duran at the weight but he beat other top junior middles.
              Lol, funny you should say that. I was just e-mailing someone and he popped in my head. McCallum is another great pick that I wouldn't argue with. Lol, I feel sorta bad now.....Mike McCallum is still the forgotten warrior. A great fighter!!

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              • #17
                Old-school 8:

                Heavyweight: Muhammed Ali
                Light-Heavyweight: Ezzard Charles
                Middleweight: Ray Robinson
                Welterweight: Ray Robinson
                Lightweight: Roberto Duran
                Featherweight: Willie Pep
                Bantamweight: Miguel Canto
                Flyweight: Jimmy Wilde

                Robinson is the only fighter I give the honor of rating in more than one division: Because I consider him the greatest fighter ever regardless of weight. I also don't acknowledge the Junior and Senior divisions as I consider them illigitimate.

                Pound-4-pound:

                Ray Robinson
                Roberto Duran
                Bob Fitzsimmons
                Willie Pep
                Benny Leonard
                Alexis Arguello
                Ezzard Charles
                Marvin Hagler
                Ray Leonard
                Marco Antonio Barrera

                Poet

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                • #18
                  Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali
                  Cruiserweight: Evander Holyfield
                  Light Heavyweight: Ezzard Charles
                  Super Middleweight: Joe Calzaghe
                  Middleweight: Marvin Hagler
                  Light Middleweight: Mike McCallum
                  Welterweight: Ray Robinson
                  Light Welterweight: Aaron Pryor
                  Lightweight: Roberto Duran
                  Super Featherweight: Alexis Arguello
                  Featherweight: Willie Pep
                  Junior Featherweight: Wilfredo Gomez
                  Bantamweight: Eder Jofre
                  Junior Bantamweight: Khaosai Galaxy
                  Flyweight: Jimmy Wilde
                  Junior Flyweight: Michael Carbajal
                  Minimumweight: Ricardo Lopez

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                    Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali (Joe Louis)
                    Cruiserweight: Evander Holyfield (Carlos De Leon)
                    Light Heavyweight: Ezzard Charles (Gene Tunney)
                    Super Middleweight: Joe Calzaghe (Roy Jones)
                    Middleweight: Marvin Hagler (Carlos Monzon)
                    Light Middleweight: Mike McCallum (Thomas Hearns)
                    Welterweight: Ray Robinson (Ray Leonard)
                    Light Welterweight: Aaron Pryor (Julio Cesar Chavez)
                    Lightweight: Roberto Duran (Benny Leonard)
                    Super Featherweight: Alexis Arguello (Azumah Nelson)
                    Featherweight: Willie Pep (Salvador Sanchez)
                    Junior Featherweight: Wilfredo Gomez (Erik Morales)
                    Bantamweight: Eder Jofre (Ruben Olivares)
                    Junior Bantamweight: Khaosai Galaxy (Johnny Tapia)
                    Flyweight: Jimmy Wilde (Miguel Canto)
                    Junior Flyweight: Michael Carbajal (Humberto Gonzalez)
                    Minimumweight: Ricardo Lopez (Ivan Calderon)
                    I agree with your list, but just for ****s and giggles (and out of boredom - work is SLOW) I offered the most reasonable alternate list I could think of.

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