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  • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
    No question Ali's technique was wrong: And no, Mike Tyson doesn't make the list. It's almost impossible to hit an opponent when you are moving backwards and most of Tyson's opponents were moving in reverse. Watch the Tyson fights where the opponent DOESN'T fight going backwards and see how often Mike gets hit then. Tyson's OFFENSE essentially WAS his defense.

    Poet


    Since I know you still read my posts by accidentally quoting me in another thread...Tyson's opponent didn't look like he was going backwards in the video posted in this very thread. Tyson was a fine defensive fighter and very difficult to hit when making his moves inside.

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    • Originally posted by Thunder Lips View Post


      Since I know you still read my posts by accidentally quoting me in another thread...Tyson's opponent didn't look like he was going backwards in the video posted in this very thread. Tyson was a fine defensive fighter and very difficult to hit when making his moves inside.
      I agree tyson was tough to hit because of his size and style but it was more like reflexes and speed that made it tough to hit him when he slowed down he got hit alot more.

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      • Originally posted by sterling View Post
        I agree tyson was tough to hit because of his size and style but it was more like reflexes and speed that made it tough to hit him when he slowed down he got hit alot more.
        I have a hot news flash for Ol' Chunder Lips: I DO still have him on ignore, however when other posters quote his non-sense in THEIR posts then I end up seeing it. Ignore doesn't wipe out quotes, only the original posts. As usual he is clueless as to how things on this forum work, just as he is clueless about anything going on in a boxing ring.

        Poet

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        • Originally posted by sterling View Post
          I agree tyson was tough to hit because of his size and style but it was more like reflexes and speed that made it tough to hit him when he slowed down he got hit alot more.

          Tyson stopped doing many things in the later rounds consistently. I was just pointing out to the pathetic Poet character that can't refrain from reading and quoting my posts or anyone else that listens to his biased bull**** that there was more to Tyson's defense than his opponents just running out of fear of being hit. In the early rounds at least, Tyson could be very hard to find and it wasn't just because of speed or reflexes either; he kept his hands up and moved very purposefully.
          Last edited by Thunder Lips; 12-30-2007, 12:31 PM.

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          • tyson was good at slippin. gotta get one of them slip bags

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            • It's hard to call Tyson one of the best defensive boxer's of all time because he was so inconsistent with his defense even in his prime.

              Also when he got older he became one of the WORST defensive fighters of all time because he realized he could take a punch.

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              • The Willie Pep story is a legend and has been proved to be false. Regardless, Pep is probably top three defenders of all-time. I throw Mayweather and Whitaker in the mix.

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                • Never seen Willie Pep, and not very schooled on older fighters (as in, older than 1990), so...

                  Elusivity - Whitaker
                  Blocking - Wright
                  Mix of the two - Mayweather Jr.

                  Sound good? At least for best of the 90s/2000s?

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                  • At heavyweight IMO it is Jack Johnson. Even at over 40 he was a nightmare to try and hit. P4P, maybe Joe Gans.

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                    • for me its pernell wink and floyd... but defensive master, has to be floyd... it just has to be

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