best defensive boxer of all time

[Verstyle]

Because as his old trainers stated it was because his opponents where too busy moving in reverse trying not to get hurt to throw punches with any accuracy or force. The exact quote was "His offense was his defense". Pretty succinct. And a pretty damn good reason for Tyson not getting hit alot.

Poet

They meant his offense is his defense is because when he slips punches(defense) he counters with a punch(offense) I tell ppl this all the time,that my offense is my defense.Because I fight simliar to Tyson,80s Tyson.

[StarshipTrooper]

They meant his offense is his defense is because when he slips punches(defense) he counters with a punch(offense) I tell ppl this all the time,that my offense is my defense.Because I fight simliar to Tyson,80s Tyson.

That wasn't what the guy meant. When asked the question of Tyson being a great defensive fighter the guy laughed his head off and said Tyson NEVER was an outstanding defensive fighter and gave the quote from my previous post as an explanation. I believe the trainer in question was part of Kevin Rooney's team.

Poet

[hemichromis]

Tyson's defense was actually quite good in his prime he moved his head alot and was hard to hit. When he stopped moving his head he started gettin Ko'd i think it might be something to do with cus d'amato and his training.


Roy Jones was never a very good defensive boxer it was his reflexes, speed and unorthadox style that made him hard to hit, he has always looked vunerable but he was able to mask his flaws with his speed, power, reflexes etc.

is

there was alot more skill to jones moves than it looks, it wasn't just his speed and reflexes that won him fights

he was a boxer who was great at evading punches; making an opponent throw a punch and miss
he was the first person to record a round on the compubox without being landed on once!
this to me makes him one of the best defensive boxer

[Verstyle]

That wasn't what the guy meant. When asked the question of Tyson being a great defensive fighter the guy laughed his head off and said Tyson NEVER was an outstanding defensive fighter and gave the quote from my previous post as an explanation. I believe the trainer in question was part of Kevin Rooney's team.

Poet

haha. Ive actually talked to one of Rooney's fighters and sparred him while in Catskills.Ive also emailed Kevin and talked to him on the phone. I beg to differ,but thats your opinion. I know what I know,no need to go on.

[The Noose]

sUPRISE SUPRISE! Yet another Tyson thread! lol

He did slip punches and counter brilliantly, but he lost that wen he got older. He relied on pressure,his hand and foot speed, plus power, to overwhelm his opponents. Being short also made it difficult for opponents to land clean on him. A great defensive boxer he wasnt. He was a great offensive fighter. There is a big difference.

People like Pep and Whitaker didnt have the power to keep opponents off them, they had to rely on their movement and defensive skills. Whitaker could slip, block, duck, lean back, parry shots.

Ali hardly got hit in his prime, but that was mainly due to his style. He stayed at range, and used his fast hands and feet to out box his opponent.
Similar to Roy Jones. Yet he had great power also. When a fighter pressured him he would move straight back against the ropes, to me he wasnt great with pressure. Yet he would counter them off the ropes.
Look at Whitaker against Chavez. Thats how to deal with a non stop pressure fighter.

[AntonTheMeh]

wilfred benitez

[ForemanCrossArm]

Henry Armstrong, not the best, but one of the top 10. Sounds crazy, I know. But offense is often times the best defense in boxing..

[StarshipTrooper]

Henry Armstrong, not the best, but one of the top 10. Sounds crazy, I know. But offense is often times the best defense in boxing..

And THAT wasn't what question was. It was "best defensive boxer of all time" NOT "who's offense was so good he didn't have to give a **** about defense".

Poet

[sterling]

hey people keep it clean lol its about defense not offense i think tyson didnt have a gd defense well if he did it didnt last long and henrey didnt have a defense lol.

[Sonou]

Toney, Ali, RJJ, Mayweather.