P4P hardest punchers of all time....

[Hawkins]

Oh man! How could I forget Bob Fitzsimmons 'Triple World champ' and first ever boxer to win LightHeavy and Heavy Titles. 44ko in 82 fights across three different weight divisions is some feat! Willard even admitted that Dempsey beat him to within an inch of his life and that he wasn't fighting for the Heavy Title he was fighting for his life!!! When a man comes out and says that about Dempsey you don't wanna play with him!

What about Stanley Ketchel?? He has to be one of the most murderous punchers in history as well. The Michigan Assassin was a middleweight and he was putting heavyweights down.

[Brunswick Assassin]

What about Stanley Ketchel?? He has to be one of the most murderous punchers in history as well. The Michigan Assassin was a middleweight and he was putting heavyweights down.

Absolutely! It was so sad that Ketchel's life was cut so short! Who knows what this LEGEND could have gone to accomplish??? This guy didn't duck anyone! He didn't get the nickname 'Michigan Assassin' for nothing. Jimmy Wilde Ernie Shavers, Carlos Zararte, Wilfredo Gomez, Rubin Olivares, Sugar Ray Robinson, David Tua. Even Freitas thunderbolt on Barrios was awesome. Thomas Hearns right cross could easily take out Cruiserweights. Liston had the heaviest jab in Boxing History. All these guys were murderous punchers!!!

[metalinmybrain]

I am as big a tyson fan as anyone . but your facts are wrong . Saverese said foreman punched harder than tyson . Stewart said holyfield hit harder than tyson and foreman and zouski said that both guys hit really hard but never said who hit harder.

My facts are wrong? Get out of here kid, who the hell are you to turn things around. Stewart literally threw in the towel against Tyson because he hit that hard. All of Tyson's opponents who faced him that couldn't take his punch power gave up mentally, either that or they couldn't hit him. In this case Stewart couldn't take his power, but stood there with Foreman all the way. Stewart literally said Tyson hits harder than Foreman. Also said Holyfield wasn't hurting me more than the ref did by stopping the fight. An 8th round TKO not knocked off his feet pal. Said Tyson hits harder than him. Saverese clearly stated that Tyson hit him the hardest he has ever been hit. He wasn't even pissed that the ref stopped the fight, he didn't even get paid for that fight. No matter he didn't want a rematch because he said Tyson was an animal in the ring who doesn't listen to the rules but hits as hard as bricks on his fists.

Get the hell out of here enough of your fairy tell bull **** stories.

[them_apples]

way to tell him metalinmybrain, I'm sick of people fantasizing about there older fighters mythical punching power, Foreman hit hard no doubt, but look at his fights it took a lot of punches, with Tyson, 1.

[Hawkins]

way to tell him metalinmybrain, I'm sick of people fantasizing about there older fighters mythical punching power, Foreman hit hard no doubt, but look at his fights it took a lot of punches, with Tyson, 1.

Well you know, it's very sickening the way people total discount the old school guys without knowing what they are talking about. Without the older guys to pave the way you wouldn't have your beloved Mike Tyson.

[metalinmybrain]

When did stewart say Holyfield can hit harder? Pretty ****** seen as Tyson KOd him in one round!

The kid who made the statement on behalf of how hard Tyson hits is a complete joke. Stewart said Tyson hit him the hardest he has ever been hit, Savarese said it as well. Stewart in the ring with both Holyfield and Foreman and Savarese in the ring with Foreman. Might I add that the older Foreman was the heavier puncher of the Foreman prior to retirement.

This is a complete joke and shouldn't be taken serious. Just another desperate attempt to pass a bogus judgement on the behalf of your ignorant pleasure of seeing Tyson go down further. Get over it kid, Tyson hits harder than Foreman!

[them_apples]

Well you know, it's very sickening the way people total discount the old school guys without knowing what they are talking about. Without the older guys to pave the way you wouldn't have your beloved Mike Tyson.

dude, I have LOTS of respect for the older fighters, don't get me wrong. Foreman is on my ATG list. But what I despise is the fantasy and folklore that is floating around them.

Yes they did pave the way for Mike, and Mike bettered them, just as Ali bettered Tunney. Get what I'm saying?

[metalinmybrain]

This is the truth so bite onto it!

Well you know, it's very sickening the way people total discount the old school guys without knowing what they are talking about. Without the older guys to pave the way you wouldn't have your beloved Mike Tyson.

I see boxing and it's progress though out years like this. In the early 30's or even the 50's with Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano the best fighters of those eras. What do you think life was like? How was the scenery. Now jump years ahead of this into the 70's and 80's or even 90's with Muhammad Ali Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield the best fighters of those eras. How was the scenery then, how much did life itself progress into the future?! As the years went on from the 30's and 50's into the 70's and up life was evolving just as fast as boxing was. No more living in black and white, the fighters of the future eras brought out the true colors of boxing and the 70's may have very well been the starting point for this occurrence.

No matter how you see it buddy, Mike Tyson would have dominated in any era because his skill and technique are that great. Also Cus D'Amato would have still been around and we all know how much he hates the mob and their ****** cheating actions. Won't mention any names Rocky Marciano.

[Hawkins]

dude, I have LOTS of respect for the older fighters, don't get me wrong. Foreman is on my ATG list. But what I despise is the fantasy and folklore that is floating around them.

Yes they did pave the way for Mike, and Mike bettered them, just as Ali bettered Tunney. Get what I'm saying?

Of course someone from this day and age is going to prevail over someone from years prior. Todays athletes are bigger, stronger and faster than ever before.

What you guys fail to realize is that the older fighters were alive today and had the benefits of the guys today then the playing field would be on an even keel. It is totally unfair to match them up without putting things in proper context.

With that being said, we are all guilty one sidedness when it comes to our favorites. Yes, I tend to slant things in the direction of the older guys at times and thats because thats what I love most about the sport and what I spend most of my times researching and studying - the history.

The same can be said for you - you lean toward the newer guys and think they are better. There is no crime in going all out for your favorite just do it with a little objectivity.

[metalinmybrain]

Of course someone from this day and age is going to prevail over someone from years prior. Todays athletes are bigger, stronger and faster than ever before.

What you guys fail to realize is that the older fighters were alive today and had the benefits of the guys today then the playing field would be on an even keel. It is totally unfair to match them up without putting things in proper context.

With that being said, we are all guilty one sidedness when it comes to our favorites. Yes, I tend to slant things in the direction of the older guys at times and thats because thats what I love most about the sport and what I spend most of my times researching and studying - the history.

The same can be said for you - you lean toward the newer guys and think they are better. There is no crime in going all out for your favorite just do it with a little objectivity.

I understand everything your saying Hawkins believe me I do. I'm not some young punk who doesn't see things through thoroughly. I know can break down my anatomy of the sport without a problem. Your right about the older fighters having the benefits of what the newer ones have being the key to how they would do in these eras. If anything there was more toughness in the older eras as oppose to skill. When you think of it though, there is only so far toughness could get you, laying down the correct punch with the correct amount of force and any tough guy would turn into a *****. Its just the matter of skill level and the power to back it, that is how you stop a tough guy. Intimation played a bigger role back then because of how tough the fighters were, you couldn't knock them down with all you had so you fold up. I don't think people realize if your not mentally fit your not going to make it and you can lose this mental control at any time. One punch is all it takes to ends things if you have that one punch.

In all honesty I get what your saying I just don't really agree with your assessment of it!