Ali is Overrated

[Lance Uppercut]

Ali is NOT overrated!!!!!

Compelling arguement. I'm gonna say......yes he is.

[Brassangel]

Poet seems to have the ability to attack a person's character only, and not the subject matter of the post.

You are also the only person to find my posts sarcastic, and since you know absolutely nothing about me, it would be wise to be more mindful of who you start flinging insults towards (especially without reasonable cause).

Believe it or not, Ali's best years were after his physical gifts were gone, and he had to start thinking. That's when he showed what he was really made of. Ali himself had stated, years later, that he would have been beaten worse by Joe Frazier in 1967 than he was in their fights after the layoff.

I also noted how you carefully avoided any points of relevence in my post, hand-selecting one or two lines to attack, out of context. Coincidentally, you used the same double-standard in defense of your own error regarding the Ellis fight. The difference here is, I'm right.

[fasman]

Compelling arguement. I'm gonna say......yes he is.

hahaha!!! i cnt be bovered to justify my reason....

[StarshipTrooper]

I really don't care who you are or who you THINK you are: If you're going to act like a snot I'm going to treat you like one.

You started off in your first post rediculing people who hold different views than your own, not to mention calling them hypocrits. You then went on to sarcastically refer to them as the "kiddies" as if their intelligence is somehow beneath you and saying they had "hard-ons" for the nostalgic.

Now, you could have kept this discussion within the realm of the pleasant if you hadn't opened your gob and started the sarcastic trash talk so you have lot of nerve bitching about personal attacks now. Don't throw down the gauntlet if you don't want to get slapped with it.

Now I'm finished with you: Permanently. Consider yourself on ignore, to me you now a non-person.

Poet

[porlie]

Ali isnt overrated, in his prime I'd pick him to beat any other HW in their prime.
Even after his prime theres not many would be able to beat him.

[Brassangel]

1. My first post was actually a comparison between the heavyweights of today, and those of yesteryear. There wasn't even a comment about anyone on this site. Your first post, however, included telling someone that they drank some kind of koolAid for having a favored opinion towards Mike Tyson. Observe:

Oh God! Why is there ALWAYS going to be one Tyson KoolAid drinker that puts Tyson, TRULY the most overated Heavyweight EVER, on a P4P list.

Poet

2. Using the term "kiddies" was a way of referencing the telling of a story around a campfire that I've told a hundred times, but there are probably some people who have never heard it. Seeing as how new people attend camp every year, with a few regulars, this makes perfect sense.

3. You have repeatedly accused me of personally attacking someone, despite the fact that your posts look like the one mentioned above, and:

I don't know if the Tyson KoolAid is slowing your thinking but I would recommend laying off the stuff until sanity is restored.

Poet

Oh yeah, and:

People are NOT likely to give credence to your valid points when you start off with evidence something so laughable. As to my original point, while people can honestly debate whether Tyson was an all-time great at Heavyweight, NOBODY but a certified Tyson KoolAid drinker could believe he belongs on ANY p4p list.

Poet

Let's not forget:

Dude, whatever. Please refrain from posting until you have achieved literacy and save the lymrics for your local bathroom wall.

Poet

Of course, there's always:

One question: Are you smoking crack? Maybe dropping acid? No wait! You're an escapee from an insane asylum!

Poet

Oh! Here's a good one:

Okay. Please let me know when you two are off the drugs and sober. At that point an INTELLIGENT conversation might be able to take place.

Poet

After people cite statistics, you come up with:

First off, is it at all possible for you to weigh in on a subject without sounding like a sarcastic prick?

For the sake of space, I'll close with:

Okay, I get it. You're just a **** talking ****** who isn't worth my effort. Please try again when you know what the f*** you're talking about. Obviously you either a. know absolutely nothing about boxing, or b. know absolutely nothing about boxing, or c. you're just an ignorant moron.

Poet

If anyone else is watching this back-and-forth debacle, they will clearly see, as I have, that you are extra-******. Oops, I finally attacked someone personally.

[StarshipTrooper]

Ahem. First off practically all the quotes you're giving came from a dispute I was having with LondonRingRules, a 24 Karet ******* who was doing his level best to piss me off. Your nose has no business involved in it. Secondly you talk about how you named no names in your initial post. However you FAIL to mention that I didn't either. No names are mentioned in my initial KoolAid drinker post. Now which is it? Are you saying hypocritically that YOU can say things so long as you don't mention names but I can't? Hmm? Thirdly you protest your innocence at saying anything sarcastic or condescending:

"What's rediculous is the way people forgive him for losses suffered after exile, dismissing them because of the layoff. What's more rediculous is how people judge his "prime" as a time when he wasn't fighting. His physical prime may have been in 1967, but his boxing prime was 1971-1975. That's when he fought his biggest fights, that's when he was smarter in the ring than ever before, and that's the Ali that Dundee has said (though I'm sure he's contradicted himself at some point) he would take over any before or after.

What's funny is the crazy amounts of hipocratic commentary that surrounds Ali. I'll give an example I've given before for the kiddies"

Hmm. That sounds pretty sarcastic and condescending to me. People who think differently than you do are "rediculous" and "hipocratical". No matter how you try and softsoap it "kiddies" is condescending. Apparently you think those who hold different views to your own are beneath you and must be educated like "kiddies.

Rave all you want, but you'll have to do it to LondonRingRules in my ignore bin. Goodbye! You are the weakest link "flush", another turd gone!

Poet

[Tha_Greatest]

Ali is NOT overrated!!!!!

Thank You, I know, hes way past overated, Hes a great fighter but not even close to being the greatest, hes rated over the overated mark, its hilarious

[porlie]

Who couldve beat a prime Ali???

Can someone name 10 HWs from any era who could beat a prime Ali????
No you cant, that shows when he was in his prime he was the greatest.

[kayjay]

Can someone name 10 HWs from any era who could beat a prime Ali????No you cant, that shows when he was in his prime he was the greatest.

Who COULD beat Ali? Have you been reading? Prime Ali lost several fights and had some struggles with mediocre guys. There are more than ten who have a chance.