Lewis-Bowe happens in 93', HW scenario after

[Emon723]

I posted a thread before "HW scenario if Tyson didnt went to prison" this time provided Bowe vs Lewis happens in 1993, what will be the course of the HW division after, and i've come up with a great idea, here goes:

1993 - It took place in April 93', even though Bowe looks better than Lewis at that time, I think Lewis owns big daddy no matter what, so I see Lewis becoming undisputed champion by stopping Bowe late in the 10th. Lewis first title defense, he took a payday knocking out Frank Bruno, Holyfield and Moorer fought in a elimination bout to determine Lewis next challenger, there would be protests from King's camp for Lewis to defend against Tony Tucker.

1994 - Soon Lewis was stripped off one belt, and its the WBA, and they sanction Tucker-Seldon for their bogus belt, Holyfield stops Moorer in November 93', so its Lewis-Holyfield in April 94', the real deal pulls off a hard earned split decision win over Lewis, regaining the WBC/IBF title, meanwhile, Bowe scored KO wins over Ferguson and Mercer, the stage is set for Holyfield-Bowe II in November 94', Holyfield beats Bowe by MD. retains his title. Holyfield already holds wins over Lewis, Moorer and Bowe.

The Rest is history, the WBA title would change hands from Seldon, McCall, Bruno until Tyson would win it again in 96', some scenario would still be the same, Bowe and Lewis would regain titles by beating Holyfield, and Holyfield will also be 3 time champ by beating Tyson, Lewis-Tyson happens in 1999, most likely we wont see Foreman becoming the oldest champ, I dont think he would get a title shot with Lewis as HW champion, the Morrison loss in 93' would be his last fight, he may or may fight Moorer but it wont be as significant as it is, but then again, i'll take bowe vs Lewis anytime for their place in history than Foreman-Moorer, Holyfield will continue to fight on thereafter and losses just the same since he just doesnt know how to quit.

[forget]

I'm sorry what? I was looking at your avatar.

Just kidding.

Just my thoughts on Bowe and Lewis
I used to always think Lewis would beat Bowe too. Then I started thinking how Lewis looked in the Holyfield fights, especially the second one! Lewis at this time had improved since 93', especially with Steward. Then I look at a Eddie Futch trained Bowe and how he handled a prime and younger Holyfield. Thats when I started questioning my own thinking on a Lewis/Bowe matchup.

[duffgun]

i think bowe could beat lewis in 93, but when he started getting fat and untrained i think lewis would win.

[Emon723]

I'm sorry what? I was looking at your avatar.

Just kidding.

Just my thoughts on Bowe and Lewis
I used to always think Lewis would beat Bowe too. Then I started thinking how Lewis looked in the Holyfield fights, especially the second one! Lewis at this time had improved since 93', especially with Steward. Then I look at a Eddie Futch trained Bowe and how he handled a prime and younger Holyfield. Thats when I started questioning my own thinking on a Lewis/Bowe matchup.

On my avatar, she's a japanese teen star

Lewis-Bowe, as they say is heavyweight divisions missing page, sometimes I would think Bowe beats Lewis in 93' then all of a sudden, I change my mind again trying to analyze it deeply, big daddy may looked great in 3 fights against holyfield, but Lewis is a different breed, based on their overall respective careers, Lewis is always one step better than Bowe.

[Franko]

On my avatar, she's a japanese teen star

Lewis-Bowe, as they say is heavyweight divisions missing page, sometimes I would think Bowe beats Lewis in 93' then all of a sudden, I change my mind again trying to analyze it deeply, big daddy may looked great in 3 fights against holyfield, but Lewis is a different breed, based on their overall respective careers, Lewis is always one step better than Bowe.

She's looks a little too young to me!!!

I've stated previously that had Lewis fought Bowe he could have described this as his defining fight, but Bowe simply didn't want anything to do with Lewis. I think Lewis would have beaten Bowe. Also, he seemed to have the edge over him mentally...

[larrytyson]

I think in 1993 Bowe would beat Lewis! Yes I have seen olimpics fight and I think it was stoped too soon! However I think Lewis with Stewart in corner would beat ANY Bowe!

[QueensburyRules]

She's looks a little too young to me!!!

I've stated previously that had Lewis fought Bowe he could have described this as his defining fight, but Bowe simply didn't want anything to do with Lewis. I think Lewis would have beaten Bowe. Also, he seemed to have the edge over him mentally...

- - Big Dummy fans always gonna dummy up forum what ifs.

[The plunger man]

Lewis always has bowes number and there is a reason why he reneged on an agreed fight and threw his belt in the bin...and he would have then faced of with the Lewis that demolished razor ruddock.
Lewis was just better in almost every department

[Rusty Tromboni]

Bowe, when fit, battered and eventually stopped a prime Holyfield.


Holyfield was a shell of his former self, and gave Lewis FITS in their rematch. Very close fight by a once-beaten man, who was too small and too old to have warranted being there in the first place.


Bowe took an absolute plastering from Golota. It's wasn't a fight, it was a mugging. But he remained on his feet both time. Lewis, got bullied by Mercer, and stopped by Rahman and McCall.


Again, this proves styles make fights. Bowe was the rawer fighter when they met in the Ammies. Lewis had actually remained an amateur to avoid rushing into a bout with Tyson.

I do believe that Bowe's superior in-fighting ability and toughness are moot in this match-up. Lewis was better at fighting long. His One-Two is one of the finest I've ever seen. We've seen him pitch shutouts behind his jab. And he was more explosive in getting off that finishing right hand. Bowe, who relied on being the bigger man, would find himself in the awkward position of being kept at his opponent's range.

I really do believe a lot of Bowe's refusal to fight Lewis was due to being perceived as the B-Side of a match where he felt he should be the main draw. But I also think there's enough evidence that Bowe feared Lewis. The biggest issue preventing the fight, though, was that Bowe simply lost heart for Boxing. He wanted easy paydays. Fighting Lewis meant roadwork, it meant proper diet, it meant time spent in the gym shoring up his weaknesses, it meant being consistent with all of that. Like many of the promising Heavyweights who'd preceded him over the past couple decades, he unraveled as soon as he achieved a modicum of financial success. Lewis, on the other hand, was willing to work hard and get back on the horse after getting bucked off, he was consistent... for a very long time.

[Willie Pep 229]

Bowe, when fit, battered and eventually stopped a prime Holyfield.


Holyfield was a shell of his former self, and gave Lewis FITS in their rematch. Very close fight by a once-beaten man, who was too small and too old to have warranted being there in the first place.


Bowe took an absolute plastering from Golota. It's wasn't a fight, it was a mugging. But he remained on his feet both time. Lewis, got bullied by Mercer, and stopped by Rahman and McCall.


Again, this proves styles make fights. Bowe was the rawer fighter when they met in the Ammies. Lewis had actually remained an amateur to avoid rushing into a bout with Tyson.

I do believe that Bowe's superior in-fighting ability and toughness are moot in this match-up. Lewis was better at fighting long. His One-Two is one of the finest I've ever seen. We've seen him pitch shutouts behind his jab. And he was more explosive in getting off that finishing right hand. Bowe, who relied on being the bigger man, would find himself in the awkward position of being kept at his opponent's range.

I really do believe a lot of Bowe's refusal to fight Lewis was due to being perceived as the B-Side of a match where he felt he should be the main draw. But I also think there's enough evidence that Bowe feared Lewis. The biggest issue preventing the fight, though, was that Bowe simply lost heart for Boxing. He wanted easy paydays. Fighting Lewis meant roadwork, it meant proper diet, it meant time spent in the gym shoring up his weaknesses, it meant being consistent with all of that. Like many of the promising Heavyweights who'd preceded him over the past couple decades, he unraveled as soon as he achieved a modicum of financial success. Lewis, on the other hand, was willing to work hard and get back on the horse after getting bucked off, he was consistent... for a very long time.

Yea, the time for Bowe to have met Lewis would have been during Bowe's climb to the title. I'd bet on a dedicated Bowe, but after the title gained he quickly, mentally faded as a fighter.

On Fear: I believe the amateur fight was stopped too quickly and can't see why Bowe would come out of it fearing Lewis; In that fight Lewis didn't actually hurt Bowe and he certainly didn't dominate him. I don't see why people think that kind of loss would unravel Bowe and make him fearful. He showed no fear against a very powerful Holyfield.

I think your "Dokes/Ferguson" assessment is the underlying reality of Bowe's decline; grabbing for easy money.

I think he was satisfied being at the pinnacle (the HW Championship) and wasn't interested in any legacy building.