your best of all time is..

[brownpimp88]

I'm suprised that Kid & K-Dogg have spent so much time discussing things with this Brownpimp character, although I have to admit that he does somewhat remind of Butterfly when he first started posting here and was giving us all forehead bruises with his constant & very frequent belittling of just about anyone & everyone not of Ali's era.

I'm surprised that when you watch dempsey fight, you dont see all these holes in his game. I mean its clear as day he was a crude brawler, yet he would find a way to make the top 10 heavyweights even though he never beat any heavyweight worth a damn. Hes the great white hope, nothing more.

[Yogi]

roy was #1 p4p for 7 years pal

Is that according to The Ring, as well?

[brownpimp88]

Is that according to The Ring, as well?

not technically, after pernell lost to oscar, roy got #1 p4p and had it till he lost to tarver.

Damn, he was fighter of the decade, how many of ur favourite guys had that honour, huh smart guy?

Roy is sweet science.

[phallus]

I'm surprised that when you watch dempsey fight, you dont see all these holes in his game. I mean its clear as day he was a crude brawler, yet he would find a way to make the top 10 heavyweights even though he never beat any heavyweight worth a damn. Hes the great white hope, nothing more.

and that's why tyson idolized him, dreamed of being him and fought like him... he even cut his hair in fade because dempsey did

[brownpimp88]

and that's why tyson idolized him, dreamed of being him and fought like him

tyson's style is more modern, he actually got fundamental training. I'm sure they tought tyson how to use angles and head movement. I dont think they told tyson to keep his hands down.

I dont think tyson won his belt off a cowboy with no skill.

[Yogi]

Damn, he was fighter of the decade, how many of ur favourite guys had that honour, huh smart guy?

I only use this name because you seem to bring him up nearly every time you respond to me, and I know that you personally don't think much of him...

In 1950 Dempsey was voted by a large group of Associated Press writers as the fighter of the first half of the century, not just merely a "best of the decade" honour given...

But getting back to Jones and his p4p status, what sources are you using cause I'd like to crosscheck with a few of my older boxing mags?

[brownpimp88]

I made a thread and the general agreemnt was that
hagler was #1 pound for pound from november 1982- april 1987
tyson was #1 from april 1987- feb 1990
then chavez got it from feb 1990-spet 1993
pernell was #1 from sept 1993- may 1997
then roy jones was #1 from may 1997-may 2004
b-hop from 2004- july 2005
and now its floyd

some mags can say paman is #1 right now, i dont care. You #1 till u lose.

Regarding dempsey being #1, do u realizez that it was during a time where blacks were hated and dempsey was the good ole whiteboy. Just look at his resume, its crap.

[Yogi]

I made a thread and the general agreemnt was that
hagler was #1 pound for pound from november 1982- april 1987
tyson was #1 from april 1987- feb 1990
then chavez got it from feb 1990-spet 1993
pernell was #1 from sept 1993- may 1997
then roy jones was #1 from may 1997-may 2004
b-hop from 2004- july 2005
and now its floyd

I saw that thread and actually posted in it, but where in it was this "general agreement" that you speak of, as even the one person who wrote "agreed" in reponse to your post didn't completely agree with what you're posting here (which is the same as you posted there), and he rightfully stated that both DLH & Trinidad (add Mosley in there too) had stints when they were considered #1 in the sport?

I believe I also saw someone post that Jones was the top rated p4p fighter in The Ring's 1997 year-end poll, which was not the case, and here's the actual & factual ranking that they came up with on that occasion...

1. Oscar De La Hoya - 123 (voted points)
2. Roy Jones - 117
3. Ricardo Lopez - 83
4. Evander Holyfield - 80
5. Felix Trinidad - 65
6. Pernell Whitaker - 37
7. Naseem Hamed - 28
8. Mark Johnson - 22 tie
8. Junior Jones - 22 tie
10. Johnny Tapia - 18

[Yogi]

In 1950 Dempsey was voted by a large group of Associated Press writers as the fighter of the first half of the century, not just merely a "best of the decade" honour given.

Neither here nor there, but for anyone who's interested in a few numbers regarded this "fighter of the half century" poll, 393 AP writers voted on that question and Dempsey finished in first place with 251 total votes (what's that...about 63-64% or so?), with Joe Louis finishing in a distant second place with 104 total votes.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

All I kno is that Brownpimp will never win an argument with Yogi....Once you mess with Yogi you should basically give up because his knowledge of the sport exceeds basically anybody elses (at least on this forum)....