Is Joe Louis Overrated?

[Zizou2]

What is your opinion of Louis' resume and the opponents he faced as a Heavyweight? Is he overrated?


Joe Louis had a fragile chin(dropped countless times as a fighter), lacked great footwork, lateral movement and had no answer to movement and a scientific boxer:

Ezzard Charles - Totally outclassed Louis with his supreme boxing ability

Jersey Joe Walcott 1 - This was a highway robbery and proved once again Louis couldn't handle movement.

A ringside poll of 32 boxing writers had 21 scoring the bout for Walcott, 10 scoring it for Louis and 1 scoring it a draw


Billy Conn 1 - Louis was totally outclassed by this LHW sweet scientist and was on his way to an embarrassing defeat until Conn got careless and decided to go for the KO

Max Schmeling - Knocked Louis Out badly, further proving he had a terrible chin


Most of his title reign consisted of jokers from "The Bum of The Month Club"

Louis fought Jack Roper who had 39 losses!!!! Imagine if Ali or Vitali fought someone like that as Champ.

He fought Bob Pastor who had 17 KO's in over 50 wins and would later get stopped by Conn!!!! He gave rematches to fighters whom he never should have fought even once. Why did he duck Elmer Ray, Turkey Thompson, Lem Franklin, and Lee Q Murray for stiffs like Savold, Simon, McCoy and Musto???

[Barn]

Anyone can make anyones career look bad by juts pointing out the negatives, I remember someone did it with Ray Robinson the greatest fighter of all time and they made HIM look bad just the way they write and bend information slighly to suit the agenda.

And the answer to your question is NO.
It's not about if you get put down it's if you get back up that counts.

And before you mention anything...he is at least 3x better than The Klitchcos...COMBINED.

[Tiozzo]

What is your opinion of Louis' resume and the opponents he faced as a Heavyweight? Is he overrated?


Joe Louis had a fragile chin(dropped countless times as a fighter), lacked great footwork, lateral movement and had no answer to movement and a scientific boxer:

Ezzard Charles - Totally outclassed Louis with his supreme boxing ability

Jersey Joe Walcott 1 - This was a highway robbery and proved once again Louis couldn't handle movement.

A ringside poll of 32 boxing writers had 21 scoring the bout for Walcott, 10 scoring it for Louis and 1 scoring it a draw


Billy Conn 1 - Louis was totally outclassed by this LHW sweet scientist and was on his way to an embarrassing defeat until Conn got careless and decided to go for the KO

Max Schmeling - Knocked Louis Out badly, further proving he had a terrible chin


Most of his title reign consisted of jokers from "The Bum of The Month Club"

Louis fought Jack Roper who had 39 losses!!!! Imagine if Ali or Vitali fought someone like that as Champ.

He fought Bob Pastor who had 17 KO's in over 50 wins and would later get stopped by Conn!!!! He gave rematches to fighters whom he never should have fought even once. Why did he duck Elmer Ray, Turkey Thompson, Lem Franklin, and Lee Q Murray for stiffs like Savold, Simon, McCoy and Musto???

I don't think you're going to get a lot of support over this aside of the Klitards who will discredit anyone who rates high to nuthug the Klits

anyway

Charles and Walcott are both ATG
Louis was able to get revenge over a robbed Walcott
and it is a comebacking deteriorated Louis who fought Charles (and saying Charles thouroughly dominated him is an overstatement, I'm sure you haven't even watched the fight)

he also avenged his loss to Schmeling with a crushing right hook to the kidney, stopping the German in 1

there are many HOFers on Louis record
how many are there on the Klits records ?

how many fighters at the very end of their career while they are obviously passed it would get in the ring with Marciano ?

you obviously have an agenda, and you fail at it

oh and Louis didn't have a bad chin
his style made him walk into punches sometimes, but he always got up, minus the Marciano fight and Schmeling fight

[sonnyboyx2]

I don't think you're going to get a lot of support over this aside of the Klitards who will discredit anyone who rates high to nuthug the Klits

anyway

Charles and Walcott are both ATG
Louis was able to get revenge over a robbed Walcott
and it is a comebacking deteriorated Louis who fought Charles (and saying Charles thouroughly dominated him is an overstatement, I'm sure you haven't even watched the fight)

he also avenged his loss to Schmeling with a crushing right hook to the kidney, stopping the German in 1

there are many HOFers on Louis record
how many are there on the Klits records ?

how many fighters at the very end of their career while they are obviously passed it would get in the ring with Marciano ?

you obviously have an agenda, and you fail at it

oh and Louis didn't have a bad chin
his style made him walk into punches sometimes, but he always got up, minus the Marciano fight

nothing to add that you have not already said... great post

[sleazyfellow]

This guy needs to be banned already

[joseph5620]

What is your opinion of Louis' resume and the opponents he faced as a Heavyweight? Is he overrated?


Joe Louis had a fragile chin(dropped countless times as a fighter), lacked great footwork, lateral movement and had no answer to movement and a scientific boxer:

Ezzard Charles - Totally outclassed Louis with his supreme boxing ability

Jersey Joe Walcott 1 - This was a highway robbery and proved once again Louis couldn't handle movement.

A ringside poll of 32 boxing writers had 21 scoring the bout for Walcott, 10 scoring it for Louis and 1 scoring it a draw


Billy Conn 1 - Louis was totally outclassed by this LHW sweet scientist and was on his way to an embarrassing defeat until Conn got careless and decided to go for the KO

Max Schmeling - Knocked Louis Out badly, further proving he had a terrible chin


Most of his title reign consisted of jokers from "The Bum of The Month Club"

Louis fought Jack Roper who had 39 losses!!!! Imagine if Ali or Vitali fought someone like that as Champ.

He fought Bob Pastor who had 17 KO's in over 50 wins and would later get stopped by Conn!!!! He gave rematches to fighters whom he never should have fought even once. Why did he duck Elmer Ray, Turkey Thompson, Lem Franklin, and Lee Q Murray for stiffs like Savold, Simon, McCoy and Musto???

Only if you rate him over Ali ;-). In all fairness. Louis was a great fighter. Some people say fighters like Louis or Marciano were overrated in comparison to fighters today. But those fighters put in work, fought much more frequent than fighters today and deserve respect.

[mrboxer]

What is your opinion of Louis' resume and the opponents he faced as a Heavyweight? Is he overrated?


Joe Louis had a fragile chin(dropped countless times as a fighter), lacked great footwork, lateral movement and had no answer to movement and a scientific boxer:

Ezzard Charles - Totally outclassed Louis with his supreme boxing ability

Jersey Joe Walcott 1 - This was a highway robbery and proved once again Louis couldn't handle movement.

A ringside poll of 32 boxing writers had 21 scoring the bout for Walcott, 10 scoring it for Louis and 1 scoring it a draw


Billy Conn 1 - Louis was totally outclassed by this LHW sweet scientist and was on his way to an embarrassing defeat until Conn got careless and decided to go for the KO

Max Schmeling - Knocked Louis Out badly, further proving he had a terrible chin


Most of his title reign consisted of jokers from "The Bum of The Month Club"

Louis fought Jack Roper who had 39 losses!!!! Imagine if Ali or Vitali fought someone like that as Champ.

He fought Bob Pastor who had 17 KO's in over 50 wins and would later get stopped by Conn!!!! He gave rematches to fighters whom he never should have fought even once. Why did he duck Elmer Ray, Turkey Thompson, Lem Franklin, and Lee Q Murray for stiffs like Savold, Simon, McCoy and Musto???

boxing at the time was still in its development stage,fighters of those eras basically fought with no strategy concepts,they held their hands very low,did not use many combinations and swung wild haymakers,i think the majority of fighters from the older eras are very much overrated

[SBleeder]

boxing at the time was still in its development stage,fighters of those eras basically fought with no strategy concepts,they held their hands very low,did not use many combinations and swung wild haymakers,i think the majority of fighters from the older eras are very much overrated

In other words, you've never watched a single Joe Louis fight. Because Louis was a master tactician, fired deadly combinations, and threw precise straight punches (not "wild haymakers").

[Canelo Phresh]

Are you one of those dumb as fu.ck klitards that are always out to discredit better boxers from the past?

[T-97]

In other words, you've never watched a single Joe Louis fight. Because Louis was a master tactician, fired deadly combinations, and threw precise straight punches (not "wild haymakers").

To be honest, I can hardly tell Louis and Margarito apart

For anyone to claim Louis threw wild haymakers proves they've never seen the man fight, his was as accurate and deadly puncher as you'll ever find. He carried his power on the inside too, hurting people with very short punches on the inside as well as at long range.

In todays heavyweight division, Louis would be far too small, he'd be a cruiserweight in this era. But, we have to look at things relative to when they fought, and for anyone to claim Louis wasn't a great fighter is ridiculous.