My honest thoughts on the fight as a black American.

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  • Hov
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    My honest thoughts on the fight as a black American.

    People are engaging in too much exaggeration and hyperbole.

    The fight was extremely close and Kovalev didn't clearly win a lot of the rounds that people gave him. The only rounds you can say he was truly dominant in was 2 and 4.

    For example, Kovalev did not win round three convincingly at all and I scored that round for Ward. I thought he landed the cleaner punches and made Kovalev's head snap back with a few punches that round. It was fairly even, no one was dominant but I gave him that round for the same reason I gave Kovalev round 1.

    In Round 1, I thought Ward was winning that round and boxing sharp. Kovalev landed a powerful jab though and people have been acting like he dominated. I gave him the round because of the power punch but by no means was he dominant. He just punches harder than Ward. Ward landed Jabs like that at will and he was landing some in the first round, but he just doesn't have the heavy hands of Kovalev


    Do I feel Ward won? No! But that's simply because of the knockdown. I just don't feel comfortable giving him the decision in such a close fight when he was knocked down. The fight was razor thin close and after the fight I didn't walk away with the impression that either fighter was better than the other. They seemed to be pretty even to me. It took Ward sometime to adjust to the length and power of Kovalev, which was to be expected since Kovalev is unique and Ward moved up in weight...but when he did finally adjust to Krusher's skillset, he looked every bit as good a fighter as Kovalev.

    For me though, I just am much more comfortable giving the W to Kovalev and if anyone should have won it was him, the early knockdown being the sole reason for that. It should have been a draw or Kovalev should have got the W. No way he loss the fight. Although I feel the fight was super close, I thought Andre Ward loss the fight because he was reckless and off balance early and allowed Kovalev to knock him down. He should have been much sharper than that.
  • Sadiqkingofko
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    #2
    you are right, the fight was close
    people gotta stop screaming robbery

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    • stuff jones
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      #3
      It wasn't a robbery - could have gone either way. I thought it should have been a draw.

      It's sad though that this place is so racially divided that we have to state our skin color to get taken seriously on certain issues.

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      • Lester Tutor
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        #4
        Originally posted by Hov
        People are engaging in too much exaggeration and hyperbole.

        The fight was extremely close and Kovalev didn't clearly win a lot of the rounds that people gave him. The only rounds you can say he was truly dominant in was 2 and 4.

        For example, Kovalev did not win round three convincingly at all and I scored that round for Ward. I thought he landed the cleaner punches and made Kovalev's head snap back with a few punches that round. It was fairly even, no one was dominant but I gave him that round for the same reason I gave Kovalev round 1.

        In Round 1, I thought Ward was winning that round and boxing sharp. Kovalev landed a powerful jab though and people have been acting like he dominated. I gave him the round because of the power punch but by no means was he dominant. He just punches harder than Ward. Ward landed Jabs like that at will and he was landing some in the first round, but he just doesn't have the heavy hands of Kovalev


        Do I feel Ward won? No! But that's simply because of the knockdown. I just don't feel comfortable giving him the decision in such a close fight when he was knocked down. The fight was razor thin close and after the fight I didn't walk away with the impression that either fighter was better than the other. They seemed to be pretty even to me. It took Ward sometime to adjust to the length and power of Kovalev, which was to be expected since Kovalev is unique and Ward moved up in weight...but when he did finally adjust to Krusher's skillset, he looked every bit as good a fighter as Kovalev.

        For me though, I just am much more comfortable giving the W to Kovalev and if anyone should have won it was him, the early knockdown being the sole reason for that. It should have been a draw or Kovalev should have got the W. No way he loss the fight. Although I feel the fight was super close, I thought Andre Ward loss the fight because he was reckless and off balance early and allowed Kovalev to knock him down. He should have been much sharper than that.
        Here's a pop quiz for you...

        Did Kovalev consistently perform the same the first half vs the second half? How about Ward?

        Boone dropped both of these guys. The flash knock down only proves that Ward is a badass!

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        • Hov
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          #5
          Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
          Here's a pop quiz for you...

          Did Kovalev consistently perform the same the first half vs the second half? How about Ward?

          Boone dropped both of these guys. The flash knock down only proves that Ward is a badass!
          I felt like Ward had the more good moments in the second half of the fight but it wasn't a lopsided blowout. Kovalev did some good things in some of those rounds as well and was competitive.


          I felt in the first half of the fight that it was close but Kovalev scored a knocked down and did some damage to Ward with some power punches. All in all I feel the fight in its entirety was competitive and even. It was back and forth with each fighter having moments. I gave Kovalev the W because in one of his good moments he got a knocked down and dropped Ward. His 2nd round was the most dominant round of the fight. All the others were pretty competitive and I don't feel like either guy truly beat the other or was clearly the better fighter. But because he was able to score that knockdown and Ward slipped up defensively, I think he should have got the win.

          I wouldn't have argued with a draw. But he damn well shouldn't have been deemed the loser of the fight.
          Last edited by Hov; 11-20-2016, 02:29 AM.

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          • TripleGFightFan
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            • TripleGFightFan
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              #7
              Originally posted by Hov
              People are engaging in too much exaggeration and hyperbole.

              The fight was extremely close and Kovalev didn't clearly win a lot of the rounds that people gave him. The only rounds you can say he was truly dominant in was 2 and 4.

              For example, Kovalev did not win round three convincingly at all and I scored that round for Ward. I thought he landed the cleaner punches and made Kovalev's head snap back with a few punches that round. It was fairly even, no one was dominant but I gave him that round for the same reason I gave Kovalev round 1.

              In Round 1, I thought Ward was winning that round and boxing sharp. Kovalev landed a powerful jab though and people have been acting like he dominated. I gave him the round because of the power punch but by no means was he dominant. He just punches harder than Ward. Ward landed Jabs like that at will and he was landing some in the first round, but he just doesn't have the heavy hands of Kovalev


              Do I feel Ward won? No! But that's simply because of the knockdown. I just don't feel comfortable giving him the decision in such a close fight when he was knocked down. The fight was razor thin close and after the fight I didn't walk away with the impression that either fighter was better than the other. They seemed to be pretty even to me. It took Ward sometime to adjust to the length and power of Kovalev, which was to be expected since Kovalev is unique and Ward moved up in weight...but when he did finally adjust to Krusher's skillset, he looked every bit as good a fighter as Kovalev.

              For me though, I just am much more comfortable giving the W to Kovalev and if anyone should have won it was him, the early knockdown being the sole reason for that. It should have been a draw or Kovalev should have got the W. No way he loss the fight. Although I feel the fight was super close, I thought Andre Ward loss the fight because he was reckless and off balance early and allowed Kovalev to knock him down. He should have been much sharper than that.
              We need receipts on you as a "black person"...

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              • sicko
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                Not sure why you had to Broadcast your Race but
                [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/G4ZNYMQVMH6us/*****.gif[/IMG]

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                • TripleGFightFan
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by sicko
                  Not sure why you had to Broadcast your Race but
                  [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/G4ZNYMQVMH6us/*****.gif[/IMG]
                  He's not even black...smh...

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                  • Beercules
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