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View Poll Results: Lucas Matthysse ATG material?
He is a future ATG in the making 12 27.27%
HOF 13 29.55%
None of these 19 43.18%
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:43 AM
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Is Sergio Martinez an atg? (since we're asking random avatar questions)
I don't think Martinez is a ATG, but he very well might be considered to be one by some. Is he a HOF maybe...legend?? maybe.

Now how about Hatton?
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:44 AM
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I don't think Martinez is a ATG, but he very well might be considered to be one by some. Is he a HOF maybe...legend?? maybe.

Now how about Hatton?
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:46 AM
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Right now he has the opportunity to become the best 140lber. Thats about it. The minute he moves up to 147 is the minute he will be exposed. Theres about 4 to 5 guys that can knock him off.
I have doubts about Matthysse at 147 too, but we really need to see him perform there before we write him off. He could potentially even be a better fighter at that weight but like I said he needs to test the waters.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:47 AM
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Let's see some worthy competition first. He's fierce with a lot of power. But so is Rios...and a host of other fighters in the past. A good boxer or a good punch could expose him.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:51 AM
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With the following wins:

Garcia (x2 if there's a rematch)
Judah
Alexander
Khan
Broner

He would be well on the way. Not the likeliest of scenarios, particularly with the TV split, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:58 AM
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Can he? Yes, theoretically he could clean out the Jr Welterweight division, the clean out the Welterweight division ( Mayweather, Bradley, Marquez, Pacquiao, Rios, Guerrero, Ortiz, Berto), if he was to then move into the Jr Middleweight division and beat the fighters there I don't think anyone could present an argument against him not being an ATG.

That being said, the above will not happen. I can see him becoming a hall of famer though, assuming he can continue to make the Jr Welterweight division.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:14 AM
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I thought he already was an all time great.
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You're missing out the 'can he become' part of the question. It's not about now, but rather the potential of the future.

Like I said, Golovkin has the time and level of activity. Moreover, he has the likes of Canelo, Froch, Ward and Martinez in and around his weight class (he also has Mayweather if he grows a pair).
U honestly think hr can fight 5 times a year? There's a reason fighters don't do it u know. U would think ppl on this site are new to boxing. Smh. With that said can he become one? Sure but then in that case many fighters can. That question is very open ended. Will he become one? For both mathysse and golovkin its highly unlikely. That's the point
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:36 AM
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I have doubts about Matthysse at 147 too, but we really need to see him perform there before we write him off. He could potentially even be a better fighter at that weight but like I said he needs to test the waters.
Matthysse is a bit undersized at 147. And he is not impossible to hit. I think he will be beaten up pretty badly by bigger and stronger fighters.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:37 AM
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I think he will be closer to Hall of Famer than ATG and he will have to work for that honor as well. There just aren't that many great fights for him besides Mayweather. Manny and JMM are both near the end of the road and those fights are unlikely anyway. If he beats Danny, 140 would be completely unified. That's a great start. He would have to show the same or more dominance at 147. I think he will try 154 down the road but I don't see him being very successful there.

Bradley
Alexander 2
Maidana
Khan
Broner
Guerrero
Ortiz
Plus any other fighters that emerge in the division.

He probably won't beat all those names so I would say borderline Hall of Famer.
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