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Old 07-21-2013, 05:17 PM
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ezzard charles >>>>>>> ray robinson
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:19 PM
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james toney vs. mike mcallum I the last true 'old school' pugilistic match-up, hasn't been one since.
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Andre Ward is clearly #1 p4p
Floyd has no fucking business being ranked ahead of Ward
Floyd hasn't scored a big win since he beat Hatton in 07
compare their resumes in recent yrs, it's no contest
Ward's the boss now, Floyd's just the star

Wlad will retire w/ a spot on the HW ATG list somewhere
all he can do is beat whoever is around during his generation of HW's
he's doing that without even breaking a sweat
it's simply not his fault that HW is in a lull period right now
and you can't blame him for not fighting the #2 guy, it's his brother
he's unified, reestablished lineage, and stops almost every opponent

Marquez was never "robbed" against Pac
Pac clearly won the 1st fight, it was close on rds but not on points
that triple KD in the 1st rd killed it for JMM
people act like Pac didn't do anything else after that
Pac clearly won the 2nd fight too, woulda been a draw without the KD
only by 1 point that time, but while it was close, it was clear
either guy coulda gotten the 3rd fight or it coulda been a draw
nobody could say shit if JMM got a close decision
Pac getting it wasn't worth all the fuss, it was a close fight
JMM just did better than he was supposed to, cool if you think he won
but don't say he "dominated and got robbed," that's laughable

Carl Froch is underrated
he's not good as far as skills go, but so what?
it's not about skills, it's about resume, no matter what your style is
if you consistently beat top opponents, you're a top fighter
Froch's not skilled, he's sloppy, and he's easy to hit
guess what? he still wins against good opponents
the guy gets bashed on and called overrated, but look at his resume
Froch deserves more respect than he gets from purists, or faux purists
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:19 PM
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b-hop = the goat
Just on pure all around ability, and how complete of a fighter he was in his prime, I can definitely squeeze him into my Top 5 on that alone. There was nothing he lacked, it's insane how good his stamina was especially against Johnson.
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:19 PM
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-Chavez Taylor was a good stoppage

-Marquez gives hell and beats alot or even most ATG's from 126-135

-Lara is garbage

-Marquez has only lost 1 real fight and it's tainted

-Rigo belongs on FNF
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:20 PM
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james toney vs. mike mcallum I the last true 'old school' pugilistic match-up, hasn't been one since.
GREAT GREAT FIGHT...

Those fights are TRUE boxing, not what Mayweather or Rigo do..

Those two put on REAL BOXING MATCHES!
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:24 PM
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the introduction of the super middleweight division robbed us of what would have been the greatest middleweight era of all time....

toney, jones, hopkins, mccallum, mcclellan, jackson, benn, eubank, collins, nunn, kalambay....

middleweights seldom moved up to light-heavy.... super middleweight division gave guys and excuse to move up.
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-Mayweather's resume above 140 is garbage

-Broner is garbage

-Hopkins is juicing

-Tito was a cheater

-Margarito never cheated

-Margarito obliterates Floyd

-The Klitschkos have a case for being the best HW's of All Time

-Modern day fighters destroy most old fighters

-If Sonny boy Jaro went to the past he would be considered a Hall of Famer and All Time Great
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:26 PM
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wlad size, strength and boxing ability means that he's clearly the most superior fighter in boxing today.
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-Margarito never cheated

i don't think that's that unpopular.... i think quite a few people agree with that.
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