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Old 06-27-2013, 08:21 PM
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:48 PM
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If i went to someones neighbourhood and kicked
his ass, I would be pretty proud of myself.

Well Thats exactly what the Europeans did. They went to Africa, they went to America and they kicked everyones asses there.

I dont understand why Europeans are ashamed of that part of their history. They pretty much prooved that they are the most dominant people on this planet
This is inaccurate. European conquests were hardly the one-sided affairs that people try and make them out to be in the early exploratory period, history proves otherwise. Europeans did not dominate really any area without substantial assistance from the local populations. They took advantage of existing systems and exploited them (the Portuguese, for example, actually introduced military violence into the Indian Ocean, where there had not been violence of any real sort beforehand because it would interrupt trade, there really was no need for it). European countries had neither the manpower nor the martial ability to control many areas up until the Industrial Revolution (Maxim gun anyone?).
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:50 PM
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If i went to someones neighbourhood and kicked
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Well Thats exactly what the Europeans did. They went to Africa, they went to America and they kicked everyones asses there.

I dont understand why Europeans are ashamed of that part of their history. They pretty much prooved that they are the most dominant people on this planet
You mean were... Because they eventually got their a.sses kicked too...
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You mean were... Because they eventually got their a.sses kicked too...
By themselves???
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:39 PM
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Old 06-28-2013, 01:07 AM
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Isn't that the point he was making? They could be the same race but two different groups of people entirely?
The point he's trying to make is that Egyptians could never be black just coz they build pyramids while the southern Africans couldn't.

My point is two of the same race can be advance while the other is not. Thus it's not impossible that Egyptians are actually black during those times.
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Old 06-28-2013, 04:47 AM
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The point he's trying to make is that Egyptians could never be black just coz they build pyramids while the southern Africans couldn't.

My point is two of the same race can be advance while the other is not. Thus it's not impossible that Egyptians are actually black during those times.
Essentially who complex and advanced a culture can be is not a consequence of race, at all. It's a consequence of environment. Why were the Egyptians so advanced as a society while sub-Saharan Africans were relatively not? Because Egypt had the advantage of an efficient system of farming in an area of great fertility allowing them to feed many more people than were required to produce the food. This meant that they could feed priests and warriors and chiefs or kings, and also could feed artisans, metallurgists, stonemasons, builders, architects.

How advanced a society can be is directly linked to how efficiently that society can be fed, and is nothing to do with race.
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:00 AM
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If i went to someones neighbourhood and kicked
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Well Thats exactly what the Europeans did. They went to Africa, they went to America and they kicked everyones asses there.

I dont understand why Europeans are ashamed of that part of their history. They pretty much prooved that they are the most dominant people on this planet
Dont talk too soon or did the europeans already forget about the severe rapings they copped at the hands of ancient military commander hannibal barca(the first and real hannibal), not only that but did the europeans forget about the moors and andalusia? Did the europeans forget about 'european(slavic) slave trade' of the ottoman empire?... The europeans are the most powerful today and over the past 200years, no doubt about that, But if you talk about total sedentary history(20,000years or so) Europeans have only been the most powerful for maybe 10-20% of known history, they love to hate on africans but africans(non sub-saharran) were the most powerful in the world for the majority of humanities known history(phonecian empire which most of it was north africa but based in lebanon, ancient saba, ancient egypt, cathrage, land of punt etc) there are literally 100's of kindoms all accross north africa/arab gulf/east africa over the past 20,000years that are far greater than the ancient greeks and romans but because the europeans are in power today thats all you ever hear about, I mean seriously how many movies can they make about ancient greece and rome before they start sounding like repititive parrots
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:03 AM
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The african americans unfortunately(imo very sadly) cop gigantic racism in non-subsaharran africa, in somalia, nubia, and habesha lands they are called 'jareer', in the arab gulf and north africa they are called 'akhdam'. In other words they saw them as inferior and were racist to them and thought they were servants and slaves.
In my opinion the subsaharran africans seem to have a personality of being it seems too nice and unwarrior like, they lands for the most part(not including kalahari desert) is rich, green and very comfortable, they dont seem to breed warriors like their afro-asiatic neighbours, and because of this it seems throughout history different people have been taking them and abusing them. Recently the Europeans seemed to have learnt of their weakness and over the past few hundred years they have also taken them as slaves.

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