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Old 05-21-2013, 03:49 AM
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Post Comments Thread For: Mosley’s winning return doesn’t silence the legacy thieves

By Lyle Fitzsimmons - It’s a good thing I’m a little thin on accomplishments.

I was MVP of a Cinderella hockey run as a Niagara Falls pre-teen, and I’ve managed to outrun about 10 percent of the field while completing a dozen 10-plus mile road races since… but no one’s been ringing the cell phone lately asking for up-front tickets to my Hall of Fame inductions.

It’s just as well, I guess, because I don’t particularly like being a bull’s-eye.

These days, no matter the acclaim earned over a career in an endeavor of choice, it seems a righteously indignant wannabe is rarely far away with a sheaf of reasons why even one more split-second in the spotlight – win, lose, draw or otherwise – will immediately reduce all legacies to rubble.

This past weekend, it was Shane Mosley’s turn in the crosshairs.

Again.

Nearly every day since last May – when a wide decision against Canelo Alvarez was the third straight loss in a career that three years earlier had him opposite Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a PPV extravaganza – some soothsayer from some outlet has written that “Sugar” ought to retire in order to save his resume.

Or just as accurately, the writer's warped view of it.

As if those three losses – or the five more he’d had in his previous 13 fights – would cancel out titles in three weight classes, two dramatic wins over a sure-fire Hall of Famer and more plentiful highlight-reel fodder than any 100 pugs whose careers dissolved long before anyone noticed.

It’s been nonsense at every stop from greatness to mediocrity.

But it’s not the first time Mosley’s been the target.

Shane heard the same “he’s done” chatter during a 1-4 stretch from 2002 through 2004, in which he was handily beaten twice apiece by Vernon Forrest at 147 and Winky Wright at 154. Incidentally, all he did in response was win seven of eight, including a vicious beating of supposed “most feared fighter in the world” Antonio Margarito.

This time, the naysayers pounced when Mayweather outpointed him in 2010, when Manny Pacquiao outworked him in 2011 and when Alvarez outslugged him across another 12 inglorious rounds. [Click Here To Read More]
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:33 AM
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By Lyle Fitzsimmons - It’s a good thing I’m a little thin on accomplishments.

I was MVP of a Cinderella hockey run as a Niagara Falls pre-teen, and I’ve managed to outrun about 10 percent of the field while completing a dozen 10-plus mile road races since… but no one’s been ringing the cell phone lately asking for up-front tickets to my Hall of Fame inductions.

It’s just as well, I guess, because I don’t particularly like being a bull’s-eye.

These days, no matter the acclaim earned over a career in an endeavor of choice, it seems a righteously indignant wannabe is rarely far away with a sheaf of reasons why even one more split-second in the spotlight – win, lose, draw or otherwise – will immediately reduce all legacies to rubble.

This past weekend, it was Shane Mosley’s turn in the crosshairs.

Again.

Nearly every day since last May – when a wide decision against Canelo Alvarez was the third straight loss in a career that three years earlier had him opposite Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a PPV extravaganza – some soothsayer from some outlet has written that “Sugar” ought to retire in order to save his resume.

Or just as accurately, the writer's warped view of it.

As if those three losses – or the five more he’d had in his previous 13 fights – would cancel out titles in three weight classes, two dramatic wins over a sure-fire Hall of Famer and more plentiful highlight-reel fodder than any 100 pugs whose careers dissolved long before anyone noticed.

It’s been nonsense at every stop from greatness to mediocrity.

But it’s not the first time Mosley’s been the target.

Shane heard the same “he’s done” chatter during a 1-4 stretch from 2002 through 2004, in which he was handily beaten twice apiece by Vernon Forrest at 147 and Winky Wright at 154. Incidentally, all he did in response was win seven of eight, including a vicious beating of supposed “most feared fighter in the world” Antonio Margarito.

This time, the naysayers pounced when Mayweather outpointed him in 2010, when Manny Pacquiao outworked him in 2011 and when Alvarez outslugged him across another 12 inglorious rounds. [Click Here To Read More]
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:44 AM
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(a) He's a drug cheat (sorry but it's true) who doesn't belong on the HOF.
(b) He's slurring his words now, for the good of his health he needs to hang them up.
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Old 05-21-2013, 05:48 AM
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(a) He's a drug cheat (sorry but it's true) who doesn't belong on the HOF.
(b) He's slurring his words now, for the good of his health he needs to hang them up.
Good post, all truth.

And doesn't Mosley have a son who's in boxing? What I was thinking is, why does he continue to jeopardize his own health in the ring, knowing he's super shot and way passed his prime when he has a son who he could mold into a world champion some day? Mosley should be looking at helping to better his son's career rather than tarnishing his own.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:11 AM
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(a) He's a drug cheat (sorry but it's true) who doesn't belong on the HOF.
(b) He's slurring his words now, for the good of his health he needs to hang them up.
does Ricky Hatton belong in the HOF?!?...did he make a comeback while slurring?!?...was he greater than Mosley?!?.. in your HONEST opinion...not your bias one
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He's reached the point where he is in danger of ruining his body forever. That's why people want him to retire. It has nothing to do with ruining his legacy.
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does Ricky Hatton belong in the HOF?!?...did he make a comeback while slurring?!?...was he greater than Mosley?!?.. in your HONEST opinion...not your bias one
No need to be so defensive bro, he was just making valid points. The thread has nothing to do with Hatton, and I don't think of someone's favourite boxer was Hatton they'd be claiming he was a Hall of Famer anyway.
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I understand that you have constraints as a writer but you can do better than this. It comes across as a Mosley fan's ill thought out opinion piece that you've spat out to fill space.

You're deriding fan's opinions without giving any real consideration as to how and why those opinions are being formed.
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Shane is a mere hall of famer in my eyes. He's no legend. You can't lose to the same fighter twice in your prime and be a legend. Sorry. He lost to Forrest twice and Wright twice for the exact same reasons. He was a power dummy. My case In point is the rematch with Oscar. Oscar made him look stupid for most of the fight. The only reason why he won the first encounter, which was close, is because Oscar was pissed after the Trinidad decision and decided to stand flat-footed for twelve rounds. Give me a break with all these modern day legend talks. The word is for a selected few and not for every fighter just 'cause. He fought anyone they put in front of him and he knew what it took to be great, he just didn't have all of the tools when he needed them. His best wins were against Oscar and Cheeto. Outside of those fights, people forget that he lost his most important encounters against Forrest and Wright.
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This scumbag was putting peoples lives at risk while juiced up to the eyeballs with BALCO.

He's a drugs cheat end of discussion.
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