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Old 05-12-2013, 06:36 PM
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Ruined Aydin . The only guy getting hurt in that fight was Guerrero. Count how many times Bernstein says "Oh my!" when Guerrero takes it flush from the bum and wobbles.

Dude before Aydin ever got to pounding the Ghost, he was getting rocked by Ouali and outboxed by Dan without getting hurt. You realize Aydin is 151lb fight night, that's a good sized LW? He has a 64' reach, same as Gamboa. So you got a reach challenged LW with no technique or workrate, and iffy chin. Throws 30 punches a round, all haymakers.
Thats cuz Ghost brawled at ww, to show off his toughness. And he didnt even care about getting hurt. If he wanted, he could use his boxing skills. He can fight.
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:39 PM
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But you put it all on Floyd, like if he wants to have a hard fight or an easy fight, he trains accordingly. It's your opinion, dead wrong, but it's your opinion.
Its not an opinion. Its a fact that he overtrained. He didnt have a hard fight on purpose. He just trained too much. Floyd Sr said that when he came into camp, he noticed that Floyd was doing too much. The first thing he told Floyd was to rest more, and then he would see results from his training. Fact is, anyone with eyes, can see that the Floyd who fought Cotto is off. And getting hit by slow hands from a short washed up fighter. The Floyd who fought Ghost is sharp as hell, and using phenomenal footwork, and lateral movement, against a much better fighter who is bigger, and taller.

And I like Cotto. Its just that he didnt impress me against Floyd. Floyd just did bad, and looked horrible
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:49 PM
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:58 PM
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what i will say tho is for canelo and his team, this whole negotiating in the media isnt gonna get it done. i guess they arent used to making big fights or anything but they gotta get with it. keep that **** quiet until it tilts either one way or another. airing out what goes on in negotiations only leads to more unnecessary drama esp with a diva like floyd.
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:59 PM
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I thought Floyd said he wants to fight all fighters at their comfortable weight so there are no excuses. He didn't ask DLH or Cotto to fight at a lower weight and he fought both of them at the same Jr. Middleweight. I don't want to hear any excused that Canelo comes into the ring at 170. As long as he weights 154 at the weigh-in.
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:59 PM
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:02 PM
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You think these guys know something, or covering all bases?
lol, they know as much as we do. not saying floyd didnt request the lower weight because im sure he did, but i guarantee u fight hype isnt participating in the negotiations. so, like i said, they know as much as we do.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:04 PM
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Its not an opinion. Its a fact that he overtrained. He didnt have a hard fight on purpose. He just trained too much. Floyd Sr said that when he came into camp, he noticed that Floyd was doing too much. The first thing he told Floyd was to rest more, and then he would see results from his training. Fact is, anyone with eyes, can see that the Floyd who fought Cotto is off. And getting hit by slow hands from a short washed up fighter. The Floyd who fought Ghost is sharp as hell, and using phenomenal footwork, and lateral movement, against a much better fighter who is bigger, and taller.

And I like Cotto. Its just that he didnt impress me against Floyd. Floyd just did bad, and looked horrible
Why didn't he look like that for Oritz then? Same trainer, 9 months apart. He should've had a similar camp.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:06 PM
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what i will say tho is for canelo and his team, this whole negotiating in the media isnt gonna get it done. i guess they arent used to making big fights or anything but they gotta get with it. keep that **** quiet until it tilts either one way or another. airing out what goes on in negotiations only leads to more unnecessary drama esp with a diva like floyd.
Agreed. As with any major negotiations both sides start far apart and work out a deal to meet somewhere in the middle.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:13 PM
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Canelo is the real deal and Mayweather knows this, there is a reason why Floyd wanted Alvarez 2 years ago and now he is running for his life, Floyd knows its a tough fight and the fight could go either way and Floyd knows he will get knocked out by the strong young intelligent lion which is Canelo Alvarez
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