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Old 05-07-2013, 02:29 PM
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Default Showtime call BS on Iole and Rafael PPV "source"

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@KevinI @danrafaelespn Guys, not sure who ur sources are. But this is OUR biz. Too few #s available to make meaningful predictions. #relax


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Old 05-07-2013, 02:30 PM
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it's called damage control.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:30 PM
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Well there really hasn't been enough time since to total all the PPV's yet.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:31 PM
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:33 PM
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Let's get this straight, when Pac vs JMM 3 was reported at 1.2 million buys people called BS and demanded official Showtime numbers. But now Showtime are officially calling BS on these numbers and people are choosing to accept the unofficial ones?
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:35 PM
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it's called damage control.
Exactly.

If this was SteveKim giving those numbers out I would take it with a grain of salt, but Fat Dan and Kevin work for legit big companies and have released similar estimates before fights that were close to accurate.

Just like when they said Pacquiao vs Mosley did over 1 million buys, or when the Oscar vs. Flyd fight broke 2 million.

LOL at Fat Dans response to Espinoza and showtime

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They coulda jacked up the PPV numbers had Floyd Sr and Ruben thrown down in a special parking lot fight co-feature.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:37 PM
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Exactly.

If this was SteveKim giving those numbers out I would take it with a grain of salt, but Fat Dan and Kevin work for legit big companies and have released similar estimates before fights that were close to accurate.

Just like when they said Pacquiao vs Mosley did over 1 million buys, or when the Oscar vs. Flyd fight broke 2 million.

LOL at Fat Dans response to Espinoza and showtime
manny and shanes numbers were never confirmed by cbs or showtime-only arum.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:37 PM
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Note how they don't directly dispute the allegations.

Obviously I'll take it with a grain of salt. Never understood why it took so long to get the PPV numbers, do they count them by hand?
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:38 PM
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Let's get this straight, when Pac vs JMM 3 was reported at 1.2 million buys people called BS and demanded official Showtime numbers. But now Showtime are officially calling BS on these numbers and people are choosing to accept the unofficial ones?
That JMM vs. Pac 3 was on HBO not showtime
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:39 PM
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Exactly.

If this was SteveKim giving those numbers out I would take it with a grain of salt, but Fat Dan and Kevin work for legit big companies and have released similar estimates before fights that were close to accurate.

Just like when they said Pacquiao vs Mosley did over 1 million buys, or when the Oscar vs. Flyd fight broke 2 million.

LOL at Fat Dans response to Espinoza and showtime
But they've done this exact same thing after every major fight. First estimates always turn out to be worthless.
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