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Old 04-02-2013, 02:23 PM
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He was undefeated and had never been stopped or even knocked down when Vitali fought him.

Manuel Charr is actually better opponent for Haye than Andrew Wawrzyk (BoxRec #45) because he's sturdy and has a decent chin.

Charr has had a few wins over boxers who were top 100 when he fought them, such as Gbenga Oloukun.

Wawrzyk has been knocked down by low-level journeymen and has never beaten a single top 100 HW opponent.
By the looks of it he was 19 years old when he was dropped and Bakhtov was a top 100 fighter. He's probably terrible too, but cut the shit of trying to make Charr sound better, he didn't fight a top 100 fighter before fighting Vitali.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:24 PM
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FFS i hope it's not Charr he's terrible, god damn Klitschko's making guys like this relevant.

Still wouldn't be as bad as Vitali choosing him though, Haye's not a title holder, Charr is more known and he's challenged for a world title. He was a nobody when Vitali cherry picked him.
Haye made Audley Harrison relevant again.

Man, you turn EVERYTHING against the KBros. Next you'll be saying that Haye would KO Vitali (LOL).
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:28 PM
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Haye made Audley Harrison relevant again.

Man, you turn EVERYTHING against the KBros. Next you'll be saying that Haye would KO Vitali (LOL).
Harrison was a European HW title holder. It's the damn truth, the Klitschko's choose garbage opponents and then they become relevant because their CV's now say they were in a world title fight.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:40 PM
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Whoever Haye fights this time around....it's just a stay busy fight.
Okay...but as long as he doesn't think beating Charr entitles him to a Klitschko shot - he has to beat someone good.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:46 PM
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Charr...

The guy is barely relevant, and the only reason he is that is because Vitali decided to pick him. I understand trying to beat guys better than Vitali did, but Haye should just worry about doing the best HE can and nothing else.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:58 PM
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By the looks of it he was 19 years old when he was dropped and Bakhtov was a top 100 fighter. He's probably terrible too, but cut the shit of trying to make Charr sound better, he didn't fight a top 100 fighter before fighting Vitali.
No. Wawryzk has been down in several fights against low-level journeymen like Harvey Jolly (he was age 22 when he fought Jolly in 2010). Jolly is feather-fisted with 20% KO ratio and fights at cruiserweight.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1484557

Wawryzk was down against faded Denis Bahktov too, in fact he was nearly stopped. Polish boxing fans say he has a poor chin.

And Charr has several wins over fighters who were in the top 100 when he fought them: Gbenga Oloukun, Taras Bidenko, Konstantine Airich, and Sherman Williams. I'm not saying those were great opponents, but Charr's resume is clearly better than Wawryzk's.

Charr at least doesn't get knocked down by boxers like Harvey Jolly. He would be a slightly dangerous opponent for Haye, but Wawryzk would be no threat whatsoever.

Haye will likely take the easiest path and fight Wawryzk.
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:03 PM
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No. Wawryzk has been down in several fights against low-level journeymen like Harvey Jolly (he was age 22 when he fought Jolly in 2010). Jolly is feather-fisted with 20% KO ratio and fights at cruiserweight.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1484557

Wawryzk was down against faded Denis Bahktov too, in fact he was nearly stopped. Polish boxing fans say he has a poor chin.

And Charr has several wins over fighters who were in the top 100 when he fought them: Gbenga Oloukun, Taras Bidenko, Konstantine Airich, and Sherman Williams. I'm not saying those were great opponents, but Charr's resume is clearly better than Wawryzk's.

Charr at least doesn't get knocked down by boxers like Harvey Jolly. He would be a slightly dangerous opponent for Haye, but Wawryzk would be no threat whatsoever.

Haye will likely take the easiest path and fight Wawryzk.
This ^^^^. Even though beating Wawryzk proves/means nothing. Haye's delusional fans will make out that he's a 'quality' opponent.
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