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Old 03-16-2013, 11:04 AM
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Oh, well that's really all we need to know then. That is like the kiss of death for boxers these days.
yah lol...but maybe omotoso can break freddie roach's losing streak.
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:07 AM
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Omatoso makes me an instant fan at last wed press conference! I think he'll win tonight!
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:08 AM
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He's a solid fighter, I don't think he'll stop Vargas but he'll make it a rough night. Might unofficially win the fight.
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:08 AM
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I've bet Vargas tonight. I've watched some tape of Wale. Strong, durable fighter. Serious power. But careless and slow. Unimpressive in fights where he was supposed to impress. I think Vargas is gonna win a boring, clear decision.

Lots of jabbing. Lots of clinching.
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:45 AM
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I've seen him before, he is a big puncher but unrefined. Check out his opposition's records on boxrec too. You will find that his own record is rather deceiving as he fought most of them when they were in "bad" times of their careers.


This is the guy that he fought two fights ago (Daniel Sostre)
2012-11-17 146 Phil Lo Greco loss, TKO, 7
2012-09-15 145 Wale Omotoso loss, UD
2012-05-24 142 Danny O'Connor loss, RTD
2011-10-21 138 Gabriel Bracero loss, UD
2011-07-15 141 Raymond Serrano loss, UD
2011-04-08 145 Damian Frias Draw

The guy he fought before that (Larry Smith)
13 losses in his last 15 fights, Omotoso fought him on fight number 12 of the losing streak

The guy he fought before that was (Nestor Rosas)
He has lost his last 3 fights, 2 by KO and Omotoso was his last loss.


There is a Documentary about his career: The Fighter's Factory
He apparently came from a very rough life and was in a street gang at one time.

Interesting vid..I don't know,I've never been to big on Vargas tbh..But if he can beat this dude in a clear victory..I'd be impressed..
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:06 PM
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I've seen him before, he is a big puncher but unrefined. Check out his opposition's records on boxrec too. You will find that his own record is rather deceiving as he fought most of them when they were in "bad" times of their careers.


This is the guy that he fought two fights ago (Daniel Sostre)
2012-11-17 146 Phil Lo Greco loss, TKO, 7
2012-09-15 145 Wale Omotoso loss, UD
2012-05-24 142 Danny O'Connor loss, RTD
2011-10-21 138 Gabriel Bracero loss, UD
2011-07-15 141 Raymond Serrano loss, UD
2011-04-08 145 Damian Frias Draw

The guy he fought before that (Larry Smith)
13 losses in his last 15 fights, Omotoso fought him on fight number 12 of the losing streak

The guy he fought before that was (Nestor Rosas)
He has lost his last 3 fights, 2 by KO and Omotoso was his last loss.


There is a Documentary about his career: The Fighter's Factory
He apparently came from a very rough life and was in a street gang at one time.

Man... You always got to root for a guy that came from such extreme poverty like that. I'm rooting for him tonight even though I think Jesse will win.
And can't believe he killed a guy.... you think that'd effect the way you fight.
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:35 PM
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I've watched some tape of Wale.
is any of that readily available online? i remembered seeing the Augustus fight (being that i went out of my way to catch Augustus fights), but i can't pull up anything else.



thanks for the opinions, guys. more response than i expected. keep thoughts coming if you have 'em.
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:47 PM
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And can't believe he killed a guy.... you think that'd effect the way you fight.
During a sparring session nonetheless, it's unusual. It must be a horrible thing to go through but if you decide to step in the ring again, you better not hold back and worry about your opponent's health or this could happen to you too.
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I've bet Vargas tonight. I've watched some tape of Wale. Strong, durable fighter. Serious power. But careless and slow. Unimpressive in fights where he was supposed to impress. I think Vargas is gonna win a boring, clear decision.

Lots of jabbing. Lots of clinching.
Here's the thing tho, when has Vargas impressed? At least you said Omotoso has serious power. What about Vargas jumps at you? Fighters like Vargas usually can't deal with fighters like Omotoso (from what I've read).


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I've bet Vargas tonight. I've watched some tape of Wale. Strong, durable fighter. Serious power. But careless and slow. Unimpressive in fights where he was supposed to impress. I think Vargas is gonna win a boring, clear decision.

Lots of jabbing. Lots of clinching.

Here's the thing tho, when has Vargas impressed? At least you said Omotoso has serious power. What about Vargas jumps at you? Fighters like Vargas usually can't deal with fighters like Omotoso (from what I've read).


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