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Old 03-07-2013, 11:03 PM
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Bernard Hopkins has the chance to beat his record for being the oldest fighter to win a world title against Tavoris Cloud this weekend.

Bernard Hopkins will try to make history again as he aims to break his own record for being the oldest fighter to win a major world title when he faces unbeaten Tavoris Cloud for a light heavyweight crown on Saturday.

The all-American showdown for Cloud's International Boxing Federation throne pits the 31-year-old champion, making his fifth title defence against Hopkins, 48.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:18 PM
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That's actually true. The only guys I see beating Hopkins at 168-175 are Ward, Dawson and Dirrell, and that is because all three of them are so much younger than him, fast, and tall, and stylistically bad for him.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:02 AM
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That's actually true. The only guys I see beating Hopkins at 168-175 are Ward, Dawson and Dirrell, and that is because all three of them are so much younger than him, fast, and tall, and stylistically bad for him.
....but for how long can his legs carry him? Cloud will put a lot of pressure on Hopkins and make it a very physical fight. From round one Cloud will try his best to walk him down. Hop is after all 48 years old. Sooner or later he won't be able to physically hang in there anymore.

If Cloud hurts Hop early then this should be a very good fight.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:19 AM
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Tavoris Cloud will be reduced to throwing about 350-400 punches through 12 rounds, believe me. Hopkins will do this, he will fight at his own pace, he will counterpunch and make Cloud reluctant to punch. You seem him throw 600-700 punches against Campillo and Johnson, well guess what, Hopkins is notorious for bring that number down on even the most active fighters. Remember Calzaghe averaging 950-1000+ punches in his fights with Bika, Kessler, and Jones, then all of a sudden he went down to only 700 against Hopkins? Hopkins made him throw 300 punches less than what he was averaging. This is something that Hopkins does to pretty much every single opponent he faces, he cuts down your workrate considerably.

Mayweather does this very well too.
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Yes he can,just have to stay away from athletic fast fighters due to his slowed down reflex's..if you stand and box with Hopkins at a slow tempo you will lose
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Cloud wins by stoppage. Ill have the vegas odds along with my 100 $ bet tomorrow!
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Tavoris Cloud will be reduced to throwing about 350-400 punches through 12 rounds, believe me. Hopkins will do this, he will fight at his own pace, he will counterpunch and make Cloud reluctant to punch. You seem him throw 600-700 punches against Campillo and Johnson, well guess what, Hopkins is notorious for bring that number down on even the most active fighters. Remember Calzaghe averaging 950-1000+ punches in his fights with Bika, Kessler, and Jones, then all of a sudden he went down to only 700 against Hopkins? Hopkins made him throw 300 punches less than what he was averaging. This is something that Hopkins does to pretty much every single opponent he faces, he cuts down your workrate considerably.

Mayweather does this very well too.
He will beat Cloud..he will frustrate him and take all the power off of the punches he manages to land
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....but for how long can his legs carry him? Cloud will put a lot of pressure on Hopkins and make it a very physical fight. From round one Cloud will try his best to walk him down. Hop is after all 48 years old. Sooner or later he won't be able to physically hang in there anymore.

If Cloud hurts Hop early then this should be a very good fight.
He wont need alot of legs..he has great upperbody movement and knows his distance and timing..If CLOUD GETS TO CLOSE HE WILL CLINCH..that will frustrate him and make him get to anxious and put to much mustard on his shots which will tire him out..I see Cloud taking alot of flush shots late and actually hurt
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....but for how long can his legs carry him? Cloud will put a lot of pressure on Hopkins and make it a very physical fight. From round one Cloud will try his best to walk him down. Hop is after all 48 years old. Sooner or later he won't be able to physically hang in there anymore.

If Cloud hurts Hop early then this should be a very good fight.
I suggest that his legs won't have to carry him all the time. He might by writhing on the canvas claiming fouls half the time, so he'll be OK.
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He wont need alot of legs..he has great upperbody movement and knows his distance and timing..If CLOUD GETS TO CLOSE HE WILL CLINCH..that will frustrate him and make him get to anxious and put to much mustard on his shots which will tire him out..I see Cloud taking alot of flush shots late and actually hurt
Nah, as one of the writers put it, he'll be throwing "his sneaky right-hand lead..".He really meant throwing "his sneaky right-head lead.."
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