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Old 01-09-2006, 11:58 AM #1
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Default Who had the best chance to ko george chuvalo?

who do you think had the best chance knock out, or even knock down george chuvalo?

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Old 01-09-2006, 12:55 PM #2
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Jack Renault > George Chuvalo
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Old 01-09-2006, 01:03 PM #3
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Jack Renault > George Chuvalo
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Old 01-09-2006, 01:17 PM #4
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I would say Shavers or Cooney would have the best chance to knockdown Chuvalo. No man could stay up taking shots to the head from those 2, and Chuvalo had a terrible defense and got whacked around easily by people.
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Old 01-09-2006, 02:33 PM #5
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Jack Renault was a Canadian Heavyweight from the 1920's, who also happened to be one of the best in the division for much of that decade.

Here's an article on Renault, which was first published in the July 1923 issue of The Ring;


'No Heavyweight prospect in the past few years has shown more promise than Leo Flynn's protege, Jack Renault, Canadian Heavyweight Champion. As a rule heavyweights reach a certain standing in their class and come to a standstill, never improving their form. In most cases, the first time they meet a good man with a "kick" it spells finis for them. And like the great Dempsey, when a heavyweight looks like a winner it is the hardest thing in the world to get matches for him, especially with men the type of the Renault type. That is the case of Jack Renault, who recently won Fred Fulton at the big Milk Fund Show in New York.

Renault proved his class by stopping the much touted George Godfrey. Jack Kearns, Jim Doughtery and other good judges of the boxing game claimed befoe than contest that Godfrey was a better man than Harry Wills, who refused a guarantee of $10,000 from Tex Rickard to meet him. Harry stepped out of the match when Leo Flynn was offered it for Renault he said, "Why not, bring him on."

Renault plastered the big black from pillar to post, outboxing, outhitting and out-generaling Godfrey. He finally forced him to take the full count.

Since then Renault has been able to get into only one match and it was only because Fred Fulton recieved $5,000 that he accepted trems to meet the "Canadian Cannonball". Fred looked like a winner in the first round of that bout, but when he found out Jack was a sticker, could take it and come back, he took it on the "heel and toe". Just when Renault had him reeling from rights and lefts, he lost the bout on a foul.

Luis Firpo, the big Argentinian fighter who is being touted as a worthy opponent for Dempsey, threatened to leave the country when the matchmaker of the Milk Fund insisted that he meet Renault. Willard is repeatedly dodging Renault and unlike the present white heavyweights today Renault doesn't draw the colour line. He is known in the East as the destroyer of black hopes, having knocked out all of the colored heavyweights, with the exception of Harry Wills, who he is open to meet at any time.

In his last starts he has stopped Fred Fulton, Tom Cowler, Silent Puryear, Battling McCreery, Joe McCann, Joe Lohman and also the great George Godfrey.

Renault is open to box anybody in the world, black or white, and doesn't require the clubhouse to step in.

Renault is a more logical contender for Dempsey's title than Tom Gibbons. With proper development under the able tutelage of Leo Flynn, Jack is certain to command world-wide attention. Renault served in the Canadian Northwest Mounted Police as a Sargeant Major and the slogin of this historic organization, "Get your Man" is to be held by Renault for his fighting career and he has never yet failed to deliver.'
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Jack Renault was a Canadian Heavyweight from the 1920's, who also happened to be one of the best in the division for much of that decade.

Here's an article on Renault, which was first published in the July 1923 issue of The Ring;


'No Heavyweight prospect in the past few years has shown more promise than Leo Flynn's protege, Jack Renault, Canadian Heavyweight Champion. As a rule heavyweights reach a certain standing in their class and come to a standstill, never improving their form. In most cases, the first time they meet a good man with a "kick" it spells finis for them. And like the great Dempsey, when a heavyweight looks like a winner it is the hardest thing in the world to get matches for him, especially with men the type of the Renault type. That is the case of Jack Renault, who recently won Fred Fulton at the big Milk Fund Show in New York.

Renault proved his class by stopping the much touted George Godfrey. Jack Kearns, Jim Doughtery and other good judges of the boxing game claimed befoe than contest that Godfrey was a better man than Harry Wills, who refused a guarantee of $10,000 from Tex Rickard to meet him. Harry stepped out of the match when Leo Flynn was offered it for Renault he said, "Why not, bring him on."

Renault plastered the big black from pillar to post, outboxing, outhitting and out-generaling Godfrey. He finally forced him to take the full count.

Since then Renault has been able to get into only one match and it was only because Fred Fulton recieved $5,000 that he accepted trems to meet the "Canadian Cannonball". Fred looked like a winner in the first round of that bout, but when he found out Jack was a sticker, could take it and come back, he took it on the "heel and toe". Just when Renault had him reeling from rights and lefts, he lost the bout on a foul.

Luis Firpo, the big Argentinian fighter who is being touted as a worthy opponent for Dempsey, threatened to leave the country when the matchmaker of the Milk Fund insisted that he meet Renault. Willard is repeatedly dodging Renault and unlike the present white heavyweights today Renault doesn't draw the colour line. He is known in the East as the destroyer of black hopes, having knocked out all of the colored heavyweights, with the exception of Harry Wills, who he is open to meet at any time.

In his last starts he has stopped Fred Fulton, Tom Cowler, Silent Puryear, Battling McCreery, Joe McCann, Joe Lohman and also the great George Godfrey.

Renault is open to box anybody in the world, black or white, and doesn't require the clubhouse to step in.

Renault is a more logical contender for Dempsey's title than Tom Gibbons. With proper development under the able tutelage of Leo Flynn, Jack is certain to command world-wide attention. Renault served in the Canadian Northwest Mounted Police as a Sargeant Major and the slogin of this historic organization, "Get your Man" is to be held by Renault for his fighting career and he has never yet failed to deliver.'
didi he have a chin like chuvalo?
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Old 01-09-2006, 03:01 PM #7
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I only see a couple of stoppage losses on his record which consists of well over 100 pro fights, and one of those came at the very end of his career (second to last fight) to Young Stribling...Here's a small quote from Larry "Cap" Roberts' (boxing historian up here in Canada) article on Renault, which mentions Renault's chin;

"Renault had a granite chin, a snapping left jab and a beauty of a right that put many opponents to sleep."
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Old 01-09-2006, 03:52 PM #8
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Big George already stopped George. Woulda KOed him but the ref stopped it because George was starting to get busted up so bad.
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Old 01-09-2006, 04:25 PM #9
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Big George already stopped George. Woulda KOed him but the ref stopped it because George was starting to get busted up so bad.
chuvalo said george didn't really hurt him that much, cause he only hit hit with one good shot, cause george was swinging so wildly. it looked worse than it was, according to chuvalo.
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Old 01-09-2006, 04:41 PM #10
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Crikey, I'm almost sick to death of constantly hearing about Chuvalo by the nuthugging boxing press we have up here. Make no mistake...I like Chuvalo (his personality and watching him fight), and have a tremendous amount of respect for him for what he did in his boxing career and especially the tragedies he's had to endure. It's just guys like Russ Anber tick me off sometimes with their "Oh no question, Chuvalo is easily Canada's greatest Heavyweight of all-time" comments and those that are similiar...Bah!
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