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Old 02-23-2013, 07:04 PM
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Please, stop blaming the promoters. I don't even see why they have to be the ones to organize this better level of testing. Shouldn't we be upset that these commissions are so slow to adopt one of these better tests?
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:06 PM
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Because NYSAC sanctioned fight.

How about people blame the sanctioning body instead of the promoter that actually allowed better testing to happen?
Keith Idec reported Morales had 4 sample test positive before the bout. The commission was told the B sample would not be in till after the fight. See the problem?
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:10 PM
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Exactly.

CSAC was responsible for Berto.
NSAC was responsible for Peterson.
NYSAC was responsible for Morales.

People love to sh1t on GBP because the positives are coming out, but that's because GBP actually allows testing to happen. Other than Donaire, TR/Arum have nothing on GBP in terms of testing advocacy.

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Please, stop blaming the promoters. I don't even see why they have to be the ones to organize this better level of testing. Shouldn't we be upset that these commissions are so slow to adopt one of these better tests?
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:17 PM
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Keith Idec reported Morales had 4 sample test positive before the bout. The commission was told the B sample would not be in till after the fight. See the problem?
My memory is lapsing right now but I thought they got the B sample tested at the last minute and it was "clean." I remember them saying it wouldn't be ready until afterward but then on the Friday of the weigh-in, they said he passed?
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:18 PM
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Interesting perspective, I never knew GBP tried to shut down VADA.
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Isn't VADAs rep already tarnished because the have the biggest PED peddler working for them?

Also didnt USADA catch morales, berto and Peterson?
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VADA caught berto & peterson. Conte doesn't work for VADA.
Yeah, they tried using VADA and then tried to crap all over them once they started busting GBP fighters. That chick who used to be a commissioner runs VADA I think....they tried to say she was incompetent because she wouldn't play by the rules.
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:19 PM
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Morales case was problematic because substance in question was Clen and Mexico has disperse problem with Clen in meat supply. WADA had similar situation previously with Mexican futbol players, ultimately did not label positive. USADA obviously struggled with same process - that's your reason for why they tested repeatedly. Ultimately, NYSAC sanctioned the fight. Blame NYSAC.

You're acting like it's USADA's MO to test fighters repeatedly until they produce a negative. Not true at all. Stop pretending.

Now USADA is pursuing a ban on Morales, while technically toothless, at least puts the situation at the public forefront. But I'm sure that's somehow GBP and USADA's fault too.

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Keith Idec reported Morales had 4 sample test positive before the bout. The commission was told the B sample would not be in till after the fight. See the problem?
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:25 PM
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VADA caught berto & peterson. Conte doesn't work for VADA.
Conte was working for berto.and berto test positive
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:27 PM
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My memory is lapsing right now but I thought they got the B sample tested at the last minute and it was "clean." I remember them saying it wouldn't be ready until afterward but then on the Friday of the weigh-in, they said he passed?
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The New York State Athletic Commission was blindsided on the Morales matter. The first notice it received came in a three-way telephone conversation with representatives of Golden Boy and USADA after the Thursday press conference. In that conversation, the commission was told there were “some questionable test results” for Morales but that testing of Morales’s “B” sample would not be available until after the fight.

Then, on Friday (one day before the scheduled fight), Keith Idec revealed on BoxingScene.com that samples had been taken from Morales on at least three occasions. Final results from the samples taken on October 17th were not in yet. But both the “A” and “B” samples taken from Morales on October 3rd and October 10th had tested positive for Clenbuterol. In other words, Morales had tested positive for Clenbuterol four times.
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:43 PM
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Reports were that Morales was tested final time on Wed of week of the fight. Came back clean. Criticism was that NYSAC had already license Morales before that. Swift actually decided after late night meeting on Fri to pull out. Woke up Sat, changed mind, then put EM to sleep.

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My memory is lapsing right now but I thought they got the B sample tested at the last minute and it was "clean." I remember them saying it wouldn't be ready until afterward but then on the Friday of the weigh-in, they said he passed?
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:50 PM
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Its funny how times have changed. Karma cathces up to the biggest fraud in sports history and now we get a whole new batallion of anti doping crusaders. Lmfao!
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