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Old 02-23-2013, 05:54 PM
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VADA caught berto & peterson. Conte doesn't work for VADA.
Victor definatly has a stake in VADA, look at the way he promotes it.
Plus VAD did nothing USADA would not have done in the Berto, Peterson & Mrales cases. Pertersons levels were elevated (No brainer), Berto had traces (No brainer) and Morales was plain dirty.
All hose fighters had they done USADA would have been caught.
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:38 PM
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Isn't VADAs rep already tarnished because the have the biggest PED peddler working for them?

Also didnt USADA catch morales, berto and Peterson?
it should be obvious that their reputation is enhanced because they have a known and repentent drug expert on their advisory board. I'm surprised that people don't see that a guy with his deserved reputation wound be under the microscope, and would HAVE to have cleaned up his behaviour.

Maybe I shouldn't be surprised, because with all the crap posted by crappers, it's only natural that slow minds haven't caught up to the facts yet.
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:49 PM
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Victor definatly has a stake in VADA, look at the way he promotes it.
Plus VAD did nothing USADA would not have done in the Berto, Peterson & Mrales cases. Pertersons levels were elevated (No brainer), Berto had traces (No brainer) and Morales was plain dirty.
All hose fighters had they done USADA would have been caught.
Peterson's levels were NOT elevated. They were 3.65, (normal for an athlete) with the upper limit being 6. He was "caught" because VADA test found he'd used a synthetic testosterone ( a prescribed suposedly medication).The Commission test would have passed him.

Synthetic is ragarded as illegal by VADA, natura is not .

I believe Conte is on their advisory board. Margaret Goodman is the Director.
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:56 PM
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Berto, Peterson = VADA
Morales = USADA

JCC = NSAC

Not even remotely equivalent.

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GBP fighters who test positive for steroids: Berto, Peterson, Morales. Suspension time: 0 months

TR fighter caught with weed: JCC...Suspension time: will be 6+ months

Lets not forget dumping quillins and winkys tests. Obviously they dont give a fcuk about drug cheats. GBP is like the Church with homosexuality
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:58 PM
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Victor definatly has a stake in VADA, look at the way he promotes it.
Plus VAD did nothing USADA would not have done in the Berto, Peterson & Mrales cases. Pertersons levels were elevated (No brainer), Berto had traces (No brainer) and Morales was plain dirty.
All hose fighters had they done USADA would have been caught.
so how come Morales was allowed to fight?
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:59 PM
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Same reason they aren't calling manny out for not doing advanced testing I suppose.
Because the so called drug crusaders only care about Steroids if it's Pacquiao, everyone else except for Pacquiao can take them. like this clown Big Dunn he always mentions Pacquiao he and the other flom0s have this weird obsession like they already insult Pacman on instinct because they are so used to doing it.

People don't care, Flom0s don't even care unless the fighter is fighting Floyd than they have a problem.
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:00 PM
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Because NYSAC sanctioned fight.

How about people blame the sanctioning body instead of the promoter that actually allowed better testing to happen?

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so how come Morales was allowed to fight?
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:04 PM
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Please, stop blaming the promoters. I don't even see why they have to be the ones to organize this better level of testing. Shouldn't we be upset that these commissions are so slow to adopt one of these better tests?
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:06 PM
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Because NYSAC sanctioned fight.

How about people blame the sanctioning body instead of the promoter that actually allowed better testing to happen?
Keith Idec reported Morales had 4 sample test positive before the bout. The commission was told the B sample would not be in till after the fight. See the problem?
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:10 PM
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Exactly.

CSAC was responsible for Berto.
NSAC was responsible for Peterson.
NYSAC was responsible for Morales.

People love to sh1t on GBP because the positives are coming out, but that's because GBP actually allows testing to happen. Other than Donaire, TR/Arum have nothing on GBP in terms of testing advocacy.

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Please, stop blaming the promoters. I don't even see why they have to be the ones to organize this better level of testing. Shouldn't we be upset that these commissions are so slow to adopt one of these better tests?
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