Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
Reply
Thread Navigation

#11
Old 02-23-2013, 10:26 AM
Slappin' Maxie
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 84
Rep Power: 0 Slappin' Maxie is a jewel in the roughSlappin' Maxie is a jewel in the roughSlappin' Maxie is a jewel in the rough
Points: 1,358.15
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,358.15
back again UrDazed? - thuggery 
Default

Some of it is. And some of it is god giving that person the power to one punch KO people.
Reply With Quote
Slappin' Maxie is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#12
Old 02-23-2013, 10:33 AM
Prince Mongo
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,652
Rep Power: 0 Prince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 7,075,569.04
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 7,075,569.04
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slappin' Maxie View Post
Some of it is. And some of it is god giving that person the power to one punch KO people.
Genetics is a big factor but good technique maxes out whatever God gave you.
If people said who has the greatest right most people would say Hearns. He had a God given right but they would be wrong he learned his right and mastered it. Look at it when he was 17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThUhD...=results_video

he turned it from that to the best right there is through improved technique.
Reply With Quote
Prince Mongo is offline
#13
Old 02-23-2013, 10:41 AM
New England
Heavy Duty
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Boston.
Posts: 27,054
Rep Power: 101 New England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 6,002,681,644,943.92
Bank: 107,713,299,368,482.72
Total Points: 113,715,981,013,426.64
Congrats on 3000 First Class Posts buddy! - The Surgeon Merry Christmas - The Surgeon for a great poster! - sweetpea87 Drinks on me brother - BoxingGenius27 I hate boxing too, lmaaoooooooooooo - Sweet Pea 50 
thanks for the green...always enjoy reading your post...green you once I can again... - jose830 great poster award - jazluvr Merry Christmas bro. Kick back and enjoy. Surround yourself with your loved ones and have a cold one. - deanrw Happy Holidays  New England - !! AI-Holmes!! Ma nigguh, you should come to Ol' England. - D-MiZe 
for entering the weed thread! - HUGH JASS BoxingScene's Educator-in-chief - Dr Rumack i didn't know you live in that area affected, my heart goes out to you...stay strong homie - jose830 #freeNewEnglang - thuggery Coming home on parole brew. - Sweet Pea 50 
top poster and cool story in my thread of how you first joined boxingscene. - HUGH JASS happy independence day you zulu warrior!!! - HUGH JASS For the fitness and nutrition advice, thanks. - jas A top poster - jas For being a roided up freakazoid - Cuauhtémoc1520 
Childhood Cancer - khepesh Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jose830 Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - jose830 World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - -jose- 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - -jose- Childhood Cancer - sugarsmosley 
Default

speed, strength, leverage, and timing.
Reply With Quote
New England is offline
#14
Old 02-23-2013, 10:52 AM
CubanGuyNYC
Latin From Manhattan
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 10,679
Rep Power: 32 CubanGuyNYC has a reputation beyond reputeCubanGuyNYC has a reputation beyond reputeCubanGuyNYC has a reputation beyond reputeCubanGuyNYC has a reputation beyond reputeCubanGuyNYC has a reputation beyond reputeCubanGuyNYC has a reputation beyond reputeCubanGuyNYC has a reputation beyond reputeCubanGuyNYC has a reputation beyond reputeCubanGuyNYC has a reputation beyond reputeCubanGuyNYC has a reputation beyond reputeCubanGuyNYC has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 20,539.94
Bank: 5,330,354,196,245,491.00
Total Points: 5,330,354,196,266,031.00
Thanks for joining the discussion in my thread about GF's and boxing, its nice to hear everyones experiences with being a fan of the sport!!! - Atreyu Khalil For being a good poster - Cuauhtémoc1520 good poster - -MAKAVELLI- victory is sweet , rigotard and proud!! - HUGH JASS Rigonation badge of honor! - dan_cov 
Have a beer to celebrate! - dan_cov Le ganamos! - Matty Ice We Finally Here, this is our moment!!! - Cubanborn87 how Fredie Mercury would say...We are the champions..we are the champion...of the world.. - *ANGRY CUBAN* Voice of reason - P4P poster. ATG, NSB HoF. - damit305 
Happy New Year CubanGuyNYC - TBear Thanks bro, Happy New Years! All the best for 2014. - dan_cov Great BoxingScene poster and top guy - a beer for my Cuban brethren! - PainfromUkraine true top notch poster - sugarsmosley intelligent poster, here's a sandwich to munch into - jas 
good lookin' out! - lefthook2daliva For the old drag queen. - Jalisciense909 Sour grapes, drag queen. - Jalisciense909 Here you go man .. Always thought u represent us very well . I once referred to u as our &quot; diplomatic ambassador &quot; on here.  I think it suits u well !!!!! - Respect Power NSB Book of Wisdom - damit305 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince Mongo View Post
Wrong, a tightly clenched fist tightens up the muscles in the forearm that inhibits speed. For the first part of the punch you want a degree of relaxation in the fist to have relaxed muscles in the forearm for maximum speed just as you would have a degree of relaxation in those muscles if throwing a ball at high speed. You can clench the fist more at impact but for max speed you don't want that before.
Indeed, the throwing arm should be as relaxed as possible, but you don't "clench the fist more" at impact. You clench it as tightly as possible, otherwise you risk breaking a bone in the striking hand. This is vital with a bare-knuckle punch, but it's still very important even when wearing wraps and boxing gloves. Besides the safety issue, you almost certainly dissipate power when you connect with a "somewhat clenched" fist.
Reply With Quote
CubanGuyNYC is offline
#15
Old 02-23-2013, 10:52 AM
Tom Cruise
Co.cktail
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Reading UK
Age: 23
Posts: 4,235
Rep Power: 27 Tom Cruise has a reputation beyond reputeTom Cruise has a reputation beyond reputeTom Cruise has a reputation beyond reputeTom Cruise has a reputation beyond reputeTom Cruise has a reputation beyond reputeTom Cruise has a reputation beyond reputeTom Cruise has a reputation beyond reputeTom Cruise has a reputation beyond reputeTom Cruise has a reputation beyond reputeTom Cruise has a reputation beyond reputeTom Cruise has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,110,000,211,590.52
Bank: 350,506,502,121.34
Total Points: 1,460,506,713,711.86
thanks for the green! - jose830 enjoy the beer and the boobies :beerchug: - jose830 Thanks for the green...eat a healthy burger :D - jose830 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - HUGH JASS 
Default

Also its worth remembering that in the Force=mass x Accelleration equation your body weight is not the mass. The mass accounts for how much of your body weight you can force into the fist (poorly worded but i hope you get my drift). The best punchers are the ones who can push as much of that body weight through the target as possible. Hence why a fat guy wont necessarily be a big puncher because his body weight is flopping all over the place, even drawing power away. So good technique is essential.

As others say there are other factors like accuracy and punching through the target. Also whether you are punching to the body or head the punch you dont see coming will hurt you most. So in that sense 'power' can be magnified by people who throw punches from odd angles (RJJ, Pac, Hamed) even if their actual force is equal or less to other fighters.
Reply With Quote
Tom Cruise is online now
#16
Old 02-23-2013, 11:02 AM
Prince Mongo
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,652
Rep Power: 0 Prince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond reputePrince Mongo has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 7,075,569.04
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 7,075,569.04
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
Indeed, the throwing arm should be as relaxed as possible, but you don't "clench the fist more" at impact. You clench it as tightly as possible, otherwise you risk breaking a bone in the striking hand. This is vital with a bare-knuckle punch, but it's still very important even when wearing wraps and boxing gloves. Besides the safety issue, you almost certainly dissipate power when you connect with a "somewhat clenched" fist.
You are right I could have worded it better but I would not go quite as far as clenching as tightly as possible.It wants to be a lot tighter so there is no leakage but does not need too much more than that. You get the degree of clenching needed with experience.
Reply With Quote
Prince Mongo is offline
#17
Old 02-23-2013, 11:06 AM
SOL27
Up and Comer
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 49
Rep Power: 0 SOL27 is infamous around these partsSOL27 is infamous around these partsSOL27 is infamous around these partsSOL27 is infamous around these partsSOL27 is infamous around these partsSOL27 is infamous around these partsSOL27 is infamous around these partsSOL27 is infamous around these partsSOL27 is infamous around these partsSOL27 is infamous around these partsSOL27 is infamous around these parts
Points: 2,304.75
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 2,304.75
Default

If you're looking just to hit bags and to be a strong puncher, technique is everything. It's the number 1 thing that generates your power. If your technique lacks in any area, you aren't maximizing your hitting potential.

A strong punch is about harmonizing your bodies movements, and carrying momentum from the ground up. By the time that momentum gets to the end of your fist, it should explode. The more refined your technique is, the faster you can make this happen. "Speed" is not just about moving fast. It's about refinement of technique, and minimizing loss.

That said, in an actual fight on the level we watch boxers, timing is everything. It's not the harder puncher, or faster one, it's the smartest one. And timing is smarts. The ability to recognize when somebody is going to attack, and intercept them while they're doing it, is the most devestating thing.

Pacquiao vs Marquez
Mayweather vs Hatton
Anything Donaire does
Reply With Quote
SOL27 is offline
#18
Old 02-23-2013, 11:29 AM
NEETzsche
dizzee raskolnikov
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Age: 14
Posts: 2,117
Rep Power: 7 NEETzsche has a reputation beyond reputeNEETzsche has a reputation beyond reputeNEETzsche has a reputation beyond reputeNEETzsche has a reputation beyond reputeNEETzsche has a reputation beyond reputeNEETzsche has a reputation beyond reputeNEETzsche has a reputation beyond reputeNEETzsche has a reputation beyond reputeNEETzsche has a reputation beyond reputeNEETzsche has a reputation beyond reputeNEETzsche has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,005,546,084.31
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,005,546,084.31
Happy New Year - Freedom. 
Default

i feel one frequently overlooked factor is confidence. confidence gives a fighter the ability to take risks and sit down on his punches, and throw punches that he might not have otherwise thrown. the main example i have in mind here is sergio martinez.
Reply With Quote
NEETzsche is offline
#19
Old 02-23-2013, 12:35 PM
Luilun
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: San bernardino California
Posts: 3,583
Rep Power: 11 Luilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,000,110,662.13
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,000,110,662.13
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexKid View Post
Or is there more to it? More contributing factors?

Is speed and bodyweight the most important factors accounting for say 90% of a punches power?

Or is power comming from other major factors as well?
Bone density using the legs as you punch lets say your throwing a hook you plant your lead leg to the ground with your body weight forward and knee bent and than pivot your foot with your hip behind it for extra power. If your looking to throw a hard right hand I always teach people to set it up by sifting your legs back and forth moving your head and body and when you think the time is right make sure you have your weight on your back leg and unleash with a spring effect as if you your a sprinter pivoting your back foot. Practice this on a bag til your perfect it before you try this in the ring. If you were here with me I could show much easier but I'm in San Bernardino Ca
Reply With Quote
Luilun is offline
#20
Old 02-23-2013, 12:48 PM
Ido
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,461
Rep Power: 8 Ido has a reputation beyond reputeIdo has a reputation beyond reputeIdo has a reputation beyond reputeIdo has a reputation beyond reputeIdo has a reputation beyond reputeIdo has a reputation beyond reputeIdo has a reputation beyond reputeIdo has a reputation beyond reputeIdo has a reputation beyond reputeIdo has a reputation beyond reputeIdo has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 100,097,584.32
Bank: 2,516,223.60
Total Points: 102,613,807.92
Thanks for all the support and respect - Massage Queen 
Default

Reply With Quote
Ido is offline
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
bodyweight?, combination, power, punching, simply, speed

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright © 2003-2013 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:02 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.