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Old 02-22-2013, 03:22 AM
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Are you asking questions then answering them yourself or what?
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:29 AM
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USADA's only obligation is to Golden Boy. Nowhere in the USADA contracts does it even mention the athletic commissions.
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...ement-part-one
Max boxing are retarded, USADA cannot stop or cancel a fight. And Max boxing cannot be trusted due to their affiliation with Arum and their opposition towards testing in the past and towards GBP. facts are USADA does the testing and the rest is up to GBP the promoter and the commission of whichever state that is sanctioning the fight.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:30 AM
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They stopped working with VADA because they DIDN'T TELL the promoter OR the Las Vegas Commission until it was too late to save the show. In other words, they sat on the information that Peterson tested positive for weeks, which then cost Golden Boy a lot of money in cancelling that event because the cancellation insurance does not cover financial losses due to a fighter testing positive for a banned substance. If they would have notified all parties the moment Peterson tested positive, the show would have likely been saved. Nobody wanted to face Khan on less than two weeks notice.
And there you have the truth. Thank you. Unfortunately rabid pac fans, who probably arent actually fans of the sport wont listen/care. They have an agenda and the facts be damned. They are going to push it period. Pesky facts be damned!
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:32 AM
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USADA cannot stop or cancel a fight.
I agree, but what does that have to do with the quote? The point is that USADA has no obligation to tell the commission because it's not written in the contract. How is the commission supposed to stop a fight if they aren't told by USADA?

But the commission itself is also pretty guilty though. They didn't cancel the fight even after they found out.

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Old 02-22-2013, 09:27 AM
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Exactly. Vada catches cheats. Usada covers cheats.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:00 AM
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And there you have the truth. Thank you. Unfortunately rabid pac fans, who probably arent actually fans of the sport wont listen/care. They have an agenda and the facts be damned. They are going to push it period. Pesky facts be damned!
And topic isn't even about Pac vs Floyd. OP is asking which is more trust worthy? And for the record Pac did not choose VADA. He said no test. Maybe you also belong with the people you criticize as not actually fans of the sport.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:11 AM
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boxing is going to be like many of the other professional sports that were found out to be very dirty.

if blood and urine are frozen they can be tested many years down the line, when the newest drugs drugs of our current era are finally something for which tests exist. i'm starting to think you'll find all types of stuff in everybody's blood. i think the "strength and conditioning coaches" are the guys bringing them into the sport. conte, heredia, ariza


usada has a bad track record in it's short tenure in boxing, and an even worse reputation in other sports.


vada was developed and founded with victor conte working as one of its advisors. at the very least conte will have an easier time getting around its testing.

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Old 02-22-2013, 10:14 AM
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At least we have moved away from the "USADA is a puppet organization run by Floyd to make Pacmen test dirty!" period of idiocy. I don't care which organization does the testing, they're both ok in my book for the time being.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:20 AM
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keep in mind that test was done in press conference and was only reported positive a week before the fight almost 2 months later
The test was done at the press conference? Do you know the difference between taking samples and testing them at the lab? Did you even read what I typed?

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How can you know whether or not an organisation is truly trustworthy, if you are looking at it from the outside? There could be so many inner workings that only the elites know about. The facts you used are cool and all, but really that isn't enough to call them trustworthy.
I never said they were 100% trustworthy I said they were more trustworthy than another organization, because that other organization has done some shady **** but they haven't (as far as I know).

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They stopped working with VADA because they DIDN'T TELL the promoter OR the Las Vegas Commission until it was too late to save the show. In other words, they sat on the information that Peterson tested positive for weeks, which then cost Golden Boy a lot of money in cancelling that event because the cancellation insurance does not cover financial losses due to a fighter testing positive for a banned substance. If they would have notified all parties the moment Peterson tested positive, the show would have likely been saved. Nobody wanted to face Khan on less than two weeks notice.
They didn't tell GBP because GBP didn't sign the contract (that VADA sent them) to receive the information in case of a positive result on the A sample. Once the B sample came back positive too, that's when everybody got notified. VADA simply followed their protocol.

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vada was developed and founded with victor conte working as one of its chief advisors. at the very least conte will have an easier time getting around its testing.
Then how come Berto got popped?

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