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View Poll Results: Better Perfomance: Rigondeaux vs Donaire OR Haye vs Valuev?
Rigondeaux vs Donaire 41 74.55%
Haye vs Valuev 7 12.73%
About equal 1 1.82%
Incomparable 6 10.91%
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:40 AM
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Default Better Perfomance: Rigondeaux vs Donaire OR Haye vs Valuev?

Two fights in which the smaller man outboxed the larger opponent using speed, movement, counter-punching - perhaps at the expense of punch output.

Haye vs Valuev for the heavyweight world title and Rigondeaux vs Donaire for the super bantamweight title . Which performance was actually more impressive, are they about the same, or do you think the comparison doesn't work because of Valuev's and Donaire's respective abilities?
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loool, rigondeaux and it's not even a contest. haye fought like shit against the worst heavyweight titlist of all time.
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Rigo against Donaire obviously.

He dominated a top 5 p4p in his prime where Haye questionably won against some 40yr old overgrown sloth which stunk out the whole of Germany.

Chagaev & a 48yr old Holyfield beat Valuev far more impressively than Haye did.
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Rigo, because he was fighting a top talent, but Haye's performance against Valuev is hugely underrated. Haye is known for a questionable chin, faced enormous height and weight disadvantages and traveled for the fight.

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What an absolute farce of a thread and a fucking stupid question.

Valuev can't even wipe his own arse and Haye still fought a dull, boring fight. Rigondeaux just took on a P4P top fighter, who many people had winning the fight before-hand, no one expected such a dominant display.
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What an absolute farce of a thread and a fucking stupid question.

Valuev can't even wipe his own arse and Haye still fought a dull, boring fight. Rigondeaux just took on a P4P top fighter, who many people had winning the fight before-hand, no one expected such a dominant display.
This, I thought this was a troll thread at first!
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What an absolute farce of a thread and a fucking stupid question.

Valuev can't even wipe his own arse and Haye still fought a dull, boring fight. Rigondeaux just took on a P4P top fighter, who many people had winning the fight before-hand, no one expected such a dominant display.
Valuev has only been officially beaten twice in 53 fights, that's mainly because of his huge size and weight advantage rather than his skill set. The point is that Rigo and Haye had to overcome a size disadvantage - but Rigo had to contend with Nonito (who had more skills), while Haye had to contend with Valuev (who had a much bigger size advantage.)

The resulting performances do have some similarities in terms of the gameplan and some of the techniques used.
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Valuev has only been officially beaten twice in 53 fights, that's mainly because of his huge size and weight advantage rather than his skill set. The point is that Rigo and Haye had to overcome a size disadvantage - but Rigo had to contend with Nonito (who had more skills), while Haye had to contend with Valuev (who had a much bigger size advantage.)

The resulting performances do have some similarities in terms of the gameplan and some of the techniques used.
Rigondeaux nullified Donaire's best assets, Valuev's best asset is the fact he wouldn't look out of place in a circus. Haye didn't display a 10th of the skill Rigondeaux did in his victory, his performance bested by a man out of his prime long before Haye even turned pro.

David Tua would've beaten Valuev for fuck sake.

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Haye was absolutely dreadful against Valuev...a no business being in the ring Holyfield did a better job.
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Rigondeaux nullified Donaire's best assets, Valuev's best asset is the fact he wouldn't look out of place in a circus. Haye didn't display a 10th of the skill Rigondeaux did in his victory, his performance bested by a man out of his prime long before Haye even turned pro.

David Tua would've beaten Valuev for fuck sake.

Someone needs to watch the fights again. Haye demonstrated a lot of elusiveness and excellent footwork in that fight, similar to how Rigo did with Donaire, although not as fluidly, but then he's a heavyweight.

Doubt Tua would have beaten Valuev since Valuev KO'd Barrett (who beat Tua.) lol..
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