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Old 02-15-2013, 03:47 PM
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Id like to see you soak a right from Mosley with headgear
Sure after you're able to point out where in my post I said Oscar didn't do that
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Old 02-15-2013, 03:48 PM
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De La Hoya's chin is ATG, so is Mosley's. Two guys with great power and great chin in their PRIME.
Yup.

They were really only wobbled once (in rd 6 by Oscar and in ound 11 by Mosley in the rematch) by each other.
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Old 02-15-2013, 03:51 PM
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This night, DLH and Mosley would have given any WW in history a tough fight. Not saying they'd beat any WW, i'm saying they'd give any ATG WW a tough fight.

I don't know why this fight makes me think of Canelo-Trout. It doesn't even have the same vibe to it, Trout is not coming up two weight classes, and Trout is not nearly as exciting as Mosley was at that point of his career. I know Canelo would bring it like DLH brought it, but I don't know if Trout can bring it like Mosley brought it. He didn't bring it vs Rodriguez or Cotto, played it safe for the most part and barely beat Cotto I had it 7-5 Trout, then re-watched it and had it 6-6 Draw. This DLH-Mosley fight got me excited for Canelo-Trout for some reason.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:00 PM
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Sure after you're able to point out where in my post I said Oscar didn't do that
Yeah,Mosley wasn't throwing them as hard right?
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:01 PM
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This night, DLH and Mosley would have given any WW in history a tough fight. Not saying they'd beat any WW, i'm saying they'd give any ATG WW a tough fight.

I don't know why this fight makes me think of Canelo-Trout. It doesn't even have the same vibe to it, Trout is not coming up two weight classes, and Trout is not nearly as exciting as Mosley was at that point of his career. I know Canelo would bring it like DLH brought it, but I don't know if Trout can bring it like Mosley brought it. He didn't bring it vs Rodriguez or Cotto, played it safe for the most part and barely beat Cotto I had it 7-5 Trout, then re-watched it and had it 6-6 Draw. This DLH-Mosley fight got me excited for Canelo-Trout for some reason.
Mosley was the same size as Oscar basically, just stayed at LW longer, and it depends on when you think he started using.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:07 PM
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Yeah,Mosley wasn't throwing them as hard right?
As expected you failed to answer having nothing to work with and came back with a lameman's sarcasm.
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Oscar isn't a retard like marg who makes incorporates getting hit in the face into his style

The rights Shane threw in the first part of the round didn't land very cleanly. Oscar's raised left shoulder would act as a barrier, or he would bend downwards to lessen the impact of Shane's overhand right.

It looks like the first real hard shot Shane landed was at 1:13 of the video where he left hooked off of a feint jab.

Shane found his range later in the round to drop right bombs on Oscar. Shane being Shane got excited and went wild as he spammed them.

His rights were throw with less vigor in the final part of the round due to how much he unloaded earlier.
Shane can throw it just as hard, but if Oscar uses his defensive techniques, which 100 fold better than marg's, he won't take the same amount of damage from the punch.

They naturally had less on them later in the round after Shane spent himself loading up earlier.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:09 PM
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Shane landed numerous hard rights as early as 30 seconds into round 1.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:22 PM
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Shane landed numerous hard rights as early as 30 seconds into round 1.
Oscar showed good defense in those 30 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=PBrTRFidtSQ#t=48s

Overhand right partially blocked by Oscar's raised left shoulder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=PBrTRFidtSQ#t=51s

Oscar ducks his head and overhand right grazes the back of his head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=PBrTRFidtSQ#t=54s

Shane's overhand right never gets there due to that uncalled headbutt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=PBrTRFidtSQ#t=1m2s

Oscar bends rightwards. Right either outright misses or didn't land cleanly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=PBrTRFidtSQ#t=1m7s

Shane doesn't have his distance yet, so he steps in too far smothering his own shot as it ends up being blocked by Oscar's left shoulder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=PBrTRFidtSQ#t=1m12s

Shane left hooks off of his jab feint to land his best punch of the round so far. Fight clock is now at 2:23.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=PBrTRFidtSQ#t=1m55s

Shane lands his first hard right off of a double jab. Fight clock is at 2:02. He gets trigger happy and follows up with an even harder right immediately after this one.

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Old 02-15-2013, 04:23 PM
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watching this reminds me of why Floyd wanted no parts of this guy til bout 10 years later
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