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Old 02-14-2013, 11:45 AM
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Is it his Weight Class?? Maybe his attitude?
He really doesn't have any big selling names up there but B-Hop.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:48 AM
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IMO no. PPV stars usually have charisma or something that attracts the casual fan. Or they have support from ethnic fans. Ward doesn't strike me as having either.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:53 AM
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its possible but never on the pac man floyd scale. just depends who he is fighting and if he puts in more performances like he did against dawson anything is possible. but i dont see him being an every fight ppv star in my opinion but probably a few depending who he fights.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:54 AM
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IMO no. PPV stars usually have charisma or something that attracts the casual fan. Or they have support from ethnic fans. Ward doesn't strike me as having either.
Which is really a shame.

I'm glad he'll at least be able to live comfortably off his talent.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:55 AM
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Only a very few handful of people can be PPV stars right now. Floyd, Pac, Cotto and a couple others with the right opponents (chavez vs martinez for example).
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:56 AM
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I'd watch Ward-Martinez on PPV at 168, but he's too big for Sergio and right now, that's the only match involving Ward that I could see on PPV.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:57 AM
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Which is really a shame.

I'm glad he'll at least be able to live comfortably off his talent.
Ward will make a good bit of money. The only way he becomes a ppv star is if Chavez goes on a good run and then Ward fights him and the fight is like floyd/gatti. even that is a longshot IMO.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:58 AM
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Yea, well aslong as he is staying true to himself.
That SOG hype is boring as hell.

If it was me I would turn it into I can never be beat type thing because I am SOG, ya know, put some spice on it.
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IMO no. PPV stars usually have charisma or something that attracts the casual fan. Or they have support from ethnic fans. Ward doesn't strike me as having either.
I agree. He isn't a highlight reel, k.o. machine either.

There is a video that somebody posted of Nazim Richardson basically comparing Ward and Tim Duncan.

Might not be the flashiest or entertaining to watch. But they sure do win a lot.
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Not really. 1. He's not exciting enough 2. Not polarizing 3. No great nemesis that the world wants him to fight. 4. Lack of a large hardcore fanbase

Got be big on 1 or all of these areas.
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