Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
Reply
Thread Navigation

#11
Old 02-13-2013, 10:06 PM
AlexKid
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,187
Rep Power: 4 AlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,431,506.01
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,431,506.01
for being a true ambassador in the training forum - jas 
Default

Great points and pic to demonstrate them lol thanks mate!!

Is the back so important because along with the midsection it helps effeciently transmit the power of your hips to your punch, (where as power would be lost if it wasnt well developed) or does it the back add power in and by its self?
Reply With Quote
AlexKid is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#12
Old 02-13-2013, 10:09 PM
AlexKid
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,187
Rep Power: 4 AlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,431,506.01
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,431,506.01
for being a true ambassador in the training forum - jas 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Own3d View Post
What!!! Teaching someone how to punch correctly ALWAYS improves power significantly.
Do you think alot of boxing trainers are basically rubbish, and many fighters get to the pros without learning how to use leverage? And so like he said its those that get it naturally or intuitively or by luck that become... at least good punchers?

And those fortunate enough to have a really excellent trainer are extremely rare?
Reply With Quote
AlexKid is offline
#13
Old 02-13-2013, 10:25 PM
NearHypnos
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,307
Rep Power: 11 NearHypnos has a reputation beyond reputeNearHypnos has a reputation beyond reputeNearHypnos has a reputation beyond reputeNearHypnos has a reputation beyond reputeNearHypnos has a reputation beyond reputeNearHypnos has a reputation beyond reputeNearHypnos has a reputation beyond reputeNearHypnos has a reputation beyond reputeNearHypnos has a reputation beyond reputeNearHypnos has a reputation beyond reputeNearHypnos has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 23,500,504,720.79
Bank: 96,404,809,842.30
Total Points: 119,905,314,563.09
thanks for the vid man - mellow_mood Great poster! - UTEP 
Default

Genetic I feel. Something inthe physiology of a fighter... I think a good comparison is a baseball pitcher. We can't all throw 100mph no matter the training. I mean I've been hit by my share of dudes and good leverage and power are hand in hand..but not always. Used to spar with a guy who seemed he was arm punching all the time an didn't exactly have great technique..yet it felt like he was holding on to a roll of quarters..just so heavy. It would hurt my forearms and just kind of hurt with everything its hard to put into words but most here should understand. I think a "heavy hand" and generating power might be a bit diff...but at the elite level usually goes hand in hand..but not always. Guys like Pac who sometimes throw without even having both feet on the ground I suspect is more a product of a "heavy hand".
Reply With Quote
NearHypnos is offline
#14
Old 02-13-2013, 10:33 PM
- Righteous -
No easy way out
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 10,453
Rep Power: 34 - Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,331,100,000,063,249.50
Bank: -1,959,130,539,377,029.50
Total Points: -628,030,539,313,780.00
No Message - Pretty Boy32 No Message - Pretty Boy32 No Message - Pretty Boy32 No Message - Pretty Boy32 No Message - Pretty Boy32 
No Message - Pretty Boy32 thanks for your contribution to the thread - robson24 thank you UG - Ogecca MaMa Not Guilty - Own3d May luck be ever in your favor - Hyper Knuckles 
No Message - -jose- biggest wannabe on boxingscene. Wipe the sneeze from under your nose - Weltschmerz kick this wannabe alpha male - Weltschmerz delusional twat suck on this - Weltschmerz post your own picture, midget faqqot ass - Weltschmerz 
kick this retarded cretin - Weltschmerz 
Hepatitis C - Spray_resistant Gay and Lesbian Pride - SILVA Gay and Lesbian Pride - KirbyLovesTacos 
Default

I think it's something you're born with. Some guys I know that are natural athletes and are very strong for some reason just can't punch for ****.

I've been a big puncher since I can remember. I've been punching everything since I was a little kid. Walls, pillows, curtains, leaves from a tree, my shadow, anything I can hit without getting In trouble. before I ever went to a gym or got a bag, I would put my mattress on the Wall and hit that for hours.

Punching just feels right to me and I know how to use my body's maximum leverage and momentum to put all my weight into a punch, it's just something I do without thinking.


Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android
Reply With Quote
- Righteous - is online now
#15
Old 02-13-2013, 10:34 PM
Michael Paine
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7,670
Rep Power: 31 Michael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 169,318.82
Bank: 389,482,418,360.95
Total Points: 389,482,587,679.77
ownage of a pactard - I'm so sorry Pacquiao vs Marquez IV! - Check_hooks you deserve a kick for your hatred of the Klitschkos - Freedom. Happy belated 1 year Anniversary. - E.P.T. Hahahaha, funny reply my ninja, here's another cake for your upcoming 2 year anniversary. - E.P.T. 
happy holidays, great poster - sugarsmosley 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexKid View Post
Do you think alot of boxing trainers are basically rubbish, and many fighters get to the pros without learning how to use leverage? And so like he said its those that get it naturally or intuitively or by luck that become... at least good punchers?

And those fortunate enough to have a really excellent trainer are extremely rare?
Any trainer with basic boxing knowledge should be able to teach someone that has never boxed before good technique and improve power.
Reply With Quote
Michael Paine is offline
#16
Old 02-13-2013, 10:37 PM
- Righteous -
No easy way out
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 10,453
Rep Power: 34 - Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute- Righteous - has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,331,100,000,063,249.50
Bank: -1,959,130,539,377,029.50
Total Points: -628,030,539,313,780.00
No Message - Pretty Boy32 No Message - Pretty Boy32 No Message - Pretty Boy32 No Message - Pretty Boy32 No Message - Pretty Boy32 
No Message - Pretty Boy32 thanks for your contribution to the thread - robson24 thank you UG - Ogecca MaMa Not Guilty - Own3d May luck be ever in your favor - Hyper Knuckles 
No Message - -jose- biggest wannabe on boxingscene. Wipe the sneeze from under your nose - Weltschmerz kick this wannabe alpha male - Weltschmerz delusional twat suck on this - Weltschmerz post your own picture, midget faqqot ass - Weltschmerz 
kick this retarded cretin - Weltschmerz 
Hepatitis C - Spray_resistant Gay and Lesbian Pride - SILVA Gay and Lesbian Pride - KirbyLovesTacos 
Default

nothing really Changed when I learned the proper way to throw a jab hook cross etc and how to position your feet . I still hit as hard or Harder


Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android
Reply With Quote
- Righteous - is online now
#17
Old 02-13-2013, 11:10 PM
Luilun
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: San bernardino California
Posts: 3,414
Rep Power: 10 Luilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond reputeLuilun has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,000,107,438.85
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,000,107,438.85
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexKid View Post
What exactly do you mean by "leverage" bro?
He means full extension of the arms with the ability to pivot the feet. Also some fighters use their legs to punch they basically put all their weight let say on the back foot than let off a right hand or when they hook they'll plant their weight on the front leg and un leash their hook. Some people are also just born with heavy hands I think it has to do with thick bones or people with wide shoulders except for Bradley though. Than you have some people thin as a stick but they have long arms coupled with speed can create great pop like Tommy Hearns
Reply With Quote
Luilun is offline
#18
Old 02-13-2013, 11:11 PM
AlexKid
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,187
Rep Power: 4 AlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond reputeAlexKid has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,431,506.01
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,431,506.01
for being a true ambassador in the training forum - jas 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Strictly_UG View Post
I think it's something you're born with. Some guys I know that are natural athletes and are very strong for some reason just can't punch for ****.

I've been a big puncher since I can remember. I've been punching everything since I was a little kid. Walls, pillows, curtains, leaves from a tree, my shadow, anything I can hit without getting In trouble. before I ever went to a gym or got a bag, I would put my mattress on the Wall and hit that for hours.

Punching just feels right to me and I know how to use my body's maximum leverage and momentum to put all my weight into a punch, it's just something I do without thinking.


Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

What gives someone heavy hands? (some people have heavy hands despite not being that heavy in total mass nor explosive like a sprrinter type athlete)
Reply With Quote
AlexKid is offline
#19
Old 02-13-2013, 11:17 PM
Shogunofharlem1
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,358
Rep Power: 10 Shogunofharlem1 has a reputation beyond reputeShogunofharlem1 has a reputation beyond reputeShogunofharlem1 has a reputation beyond reputeShogunofharlem1 has a reputation beyond reputeShogunofharlem1 has a reputation beyond reputeShogunofharlem1 has a reputation beyond reputeShogunofharlem1 has a reputation beyond reputeShogunofharlem1 has a reputation beyond reputeShogunofharlem1 has a reputation beyond reputeShogunofharlem1 has a reputation beyond reputeShogunofharlem1 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,048,856.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,048,856.00
Godamn!!! nice avi :fing02: - jose830 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NearHypnos View Post
Genetic I feel. Something inthe physiology of a fighter... I think a good comparison is a baseball pitcher. We can't all throw 100mph no matter the training. I mean I've been hit by my share of dudes and good leverage and power are hand in hand..but not always. Used to spar with a guy who seemed he was arm punching all the time an didn't exactly have great technique..yet it felt like he was holding on to a roll of quarters..just so heavy. It would hurt my forearms and just kind of hurt with everything its hard to put into words but most here should understand. I think a "heavy hand" and generating power might be a bit diff...but at the elite level usually goes hand in hand..but not always. Guys like Pac who sometimes throw without even having both feet on the ground I suspect is more a product of a "heavy hand".
Look at foreman. He never looked like he was putting his whole body into his shots yet he was hitting like a sledgehammer. I didnt think the punch that koed moorer looked anything special until i saw the result on his face.
Reply With Quote
Shogunofharlem1 is offline
#20
Old 02-13-2013, 11:38 PM
Earl Hickey
Boooooomb Squad
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 18,053
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 106 Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond reputeEarl Hickey has a reputation beyond reputeEarl Hickey has a reputation beyond reputeEarl Hickey has a reputation beyond reputeEarl Hickey has a reputation beyond reputeEarl Hickey has a reputation beyond reputeEarl Hickey has a reputation beyond reputeEarl Hickey has a reputation beyond reputeEarl Hickey has a reputation beyond reputeEarl Hickey has a reputation beyond reputeEarl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 500,000,508,128.42
Bank: 331,779,835,227,580.19
Total Points: 332,279,835,735,708.62
have fun with this - Sir TomJones Apple - iBreakbeat You'll need these - Rip Chudd Congrats man! - Rip Chudd Stay safe - rorymac 
Making us BS members proud - Versastyle Happy early Bday and congrats on 10k love :kiss: - Bossy blue parallelogram for your birthday - Jack Napier Happy Birthday darling! I hope you have a wonderful day xxx - Bossy I swear you make my day with every single post. - Alx. 
LOL, that cracked me up. Here's a cold one on me. - BulgariasFinest Excellent poster. I chuckle every time you post that gif of RJJ getting KTFO. - I'm so sorry Here's one on me - led* 14k posts - ShaunRoberts Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - Freedom. 
happy 15,000 - JonoYoungP4P Boxing scenes number one idiot - ROSS CALIFORNIA #FREE EARL HICKEY #JusticeForEarl - thuggery with a bit of luck it's not severe! - HUGH JASS Wilder's right hand leaves them too drunk to stand! - valero 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - mangler Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - mangler Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - mangler Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - Gift Giver AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - Ether 
Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - MANGLER Cesarean Sections - Headaches - Hospice Care - Multiple Myeloma - MANGLER Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - ??? Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - iBreakbeat 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - MANIAC310 Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Shiranui Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - TBear Graves Disease - Lymphedema - Men's Health - Pro Choice - Prostate Cancer - Scleroderma - Thyroid Disease - Trisomy 18 - TBear Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - TBear 
Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - !! AI-Holmes!! AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - !! AI-Holmes!! Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - thuggery 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Own3d View Post
What!!! Teaching someone how to punch correctly ALWAYS improves power significantly.
Exactly.

There's a lot of boxers who don't punch correctly, even champion level fighters

Amir Khan is a prime example, he doesn't leverage his shots properly, is always off balance and has **** accuracy.

Some of its "natural" but learning proper technique really helps, people with no training usually arm punch
Reply With Quote
Earl Hickey is offline
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
boxers, hard?, makes, puncher?, somne

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright 2003-2013 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:56 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.