Better resume Holmes or Wladimir

dan_cov

Holmes fought the bigger names but a lot was green or at the tail end of their careers/semi retired, Wladimir fought the lesser guys/names overall but they was mainly prime IMO

This isn't a Holmes bashing thread or ''Wlad is the GOAT'' or vice versa just wondered who you reckon seeing they've made a similar amount of title defenses, ruled for a around a decade etc

Holmes key wins...

56-6-1 Shavers
40-4-0 Norton
23-1-2 Evangelista
24-0-1 Leroy Jones
56-3 Ali
18-1 Berbick
10-2-2 Spinks
22-0 Renaldo Snipes
25-0 Cooney
20-2 Tex Cobb
15-0 Tim Witherspoon
10-0 Marvis Frazier
14-1 Bonecrusher Smith
16-0 Carl Williams
18-0 Ray Mercer

Wladimir key wins

23-1 Monte Barrett
31-1 Chris Byrd
34-4-1 Ray Mercer
28-2-3 Jameel McCline
24-0 Sam Peter
39-2-1 Chris Byrd
29-0 Calvin Brock
33-3 Lamont Brewster
24-3-4 Ray Austin
22-0-1 Sultan Ibragimov
31-1-0 Tony Thompson
45-6-2 Hasim Rahman
25-0-1 Ruslan Chagaev
35-1-0 Eddie Chambers
34-3-0 Sam Peter
25-1-0 David Haye
36-2-0 Tony Thompson
27-0 Mariusz Wach

dan_cov · 03:53 PM

If I've missed any, let me know, I'll edit.

Could you also say who you voted and maybe a reason why...

Simurgh

I would go with Holmes if he had beaten those HOF/ATG before they were shot. Also if he had less defeats.

It's close, but I go with Wlad.

D-MiZe

No competition... Holmes.

"Smokin Sugar"

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Originally Posted by D-MiZe

No competition... Holmes.

Can you explain why??

JAB5239

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Originally Posted by Simurgh

I would go with Holmes if he had beaten those HOF/ATG before they were shot. Also if he had less defeats.

It's close, but I go with Wlad.

Norton wasn't shot a arguably fought his greatest fight against Holmes.

Its pretty close but Norton and Witherspoon help Larry edge it.

pigsfly · 05:25 PM

wooooooooooow

holmes resume is light years away & I'm willing to debate anyone who disagrees (I'm no wlad hater ether)

if you guys posed this question to a historical Boxing expert you'll get laughed at. (not even joking)

House of Stone

f*ck the haters the resumes are actually pretty close as it stands holmes still edges it but add wins over say, price + fury (at least one of which will probably go on to be some form of world champ) to wlad's list and he will pass him

Simurgh

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Originally Posted by JAB5239

Norton wasn't shot a arguably fought his greatest fight against Holmes.

Its pretty close but Norton and Witherspoon help Larry edge it.

I am also taking into account Holmes lost 6 times, regardless he was older fighter when he retired.

Simurgh

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Originally Posted by pigsfly

wooooooooooow

holmes resume is light years away & I'm willing to debate anyone who disagrees (I'm no wlad hater ether)

if you guys posed this question to a historical Boxing expert you'll get laughed at. (not even joking)

make your case. Let's hear it. 'light years' I am intrigued...

View Poll Results: Better resume Holmes or Wladimir
Holmes	63	74.12%
Wladimir	16	18.82%
Difficult to say its around even	6	7.06%
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