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Old 02-08-2013, 02:49 PM
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I'm sorry, did you say something other than its not perfect but it is ok as long as he fights Povetkin next? I know you haven't tried to debate me on Wlads last 3 out of 4 opponent's, have you? And if you don't like the thread don't post in it.
I don't need to debate you on anything, it's difficult enough to take you serious in general. But your troll thread clearly backfired, and now you start whining. Wlad fights the best and the rest, so let it go.


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I don't need to debate you on anything, it's difficult enough to take you serious in general. But your troll thread clearly backfired, and now you start whining. Wlad fights the best and the rest, so let it go.

No, you can't debate me on anything. That's the difference. Now be gone nuthugger, you bring nothing to the table.
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:13 PM
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Roy Jones seemed to fight an endless line of nohopers. Chavez also. Going back further Roberto DurŠn fought his string of cans during his LW days.

If anything the state of the game has gotten worse with more alphabet boys and several Champions of each organization.

Singling out Wlad instead of making the thread about the general level of world title challengers gives the appearance of you, given your history, continuosly trolling the klits, instead of attacking the issue. Correct me if I'm wrong.
you lost the entire forum there..................you'll be hard pressed to find a fighter that duran, chavez, fought that was worser then Pianeta.

you have guys coming in comparing holmes competition with wlads and now duran?

heres an example for you.

"Tim Witherspoon" was considered a c level fighter in the 80's. he was 6'4 & about 240 pounds.

compare pianeta with witherspoon. (look CLOSELY, look at the movement, the defense, the balance. the skill set of both men)

sometimes i wonder do you guys watch old films before you start belittling guys like holmes & duran. the guys of that era (even the so called bums) are clearly light years past the top guys of this division.

i want you to look at this very closely.


Again. look at the movement, the defense, the balance. the skill set of both men.

it's almost shameful what some of you guys are doing on here........






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Ok then. Let's say that Povetkin is ruled out for now.

Here's the list of HW's ranked in the top 10 by the 'governing bodies':

Haye
Ortiz
Chagaev
Boytsov
Oquendo
Pudar
Wawrzyk
Banks
Wilder
Abdusalamov
Adamek
Jennings
Ustinov
Price
Fury
Dimitrenko
Arreola
Takam
Pianeta
Leapai


Not exactly a who's who of future ATG's and I frankly haven't seen much more than half these guys. But who'd you say Wlad should fight?
I'd have to think about and look at them more closely to give a proper answer, but I know Pianeta is not it.
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you lost the entire forum there..................you'll be hard pressed to find a fighter that duran, chavez, fought that was worser then Pianeta.

you have guys coming in comparing holmes competition with wlads and now duran?

heres an example for you.

"Tim Witherspoon" was considered a c level fighter in the 80's. he was 6'4 & about 240 pounds.

compare pianeta with witherspoon. (look CLOSELY, look at the movement, the defense, the balance. the skill set of both men)

sometimes i wonder do you guys watch old films before you start belittling guys like holmes & duran. the guys of that era (even the so called bums) are clearly light years past the top guys of this division.

i want you to look at this very closely.


Again. look at the movement, the defense, the balance. the skill set of both men

it's almost shameful what some of you guys are doing on here........





This post as well others in this thread should be excused as passion. Bats knowledge is second to none.
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you lost the entire forum there..................you'll be hard pressed to find a fighter that duran, chavez, fought that was worser then Pianeta.

you have guys coming in comparing holmes competition with wlads and now duran?

heres an example for you.

"Tim Witherspoon" was considered a c level fighter in the 80's. he was 6'4 & about 240 pounds.

compare pianeta with witherspoon. (look CLOSELY, look at the movement, the defense, the balance. the skill set of both men)

sometimes i wonder do you guys watch old films before you start belittling guys like holmes & duran. the guys of that era (even the so called bums) are clearly light years past the top guys of this division.

i want you to look at this very closely.


Again. look at the movement, the defense, the balance. the skill set of both men.

it's almost shameful what some of you guys are doing on here........





You sir. Either you misread my post or else you haven't got the slightest idea what you are talking about.
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This post as well others in this thread should be excused as passion. Bats knowledge is second to none.
he's a poster that I've never had words with (in person or on the phone) so i don't know where his knowledge is at nore do i really know him. I'm looking at the post he made.
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You sir. Either you misread my post or else you haven't got the slightest idea what you are talking about.
well this is your quote (I'll show you exactly what I'm replying to)

"Roy Jones seemed to fight an endless line of nohopers. Chavez also. Going back further Roberto DurŠn fought his string of cans during his LW days"

I was saying that even so called no hopers in another era can't be compared to the division of today.
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well this is your quote (I'll show you exactly what I'm replying to)

"Roy Jones seemed to fight an endless line of nohopers. Chavez also. Going back further Roberto DurŠn fought his string of cans during his LW days"

I was saying that even so called no hopers in another era can't be compared to the division of today.
Cool story bro.
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Cool story bro.
now we're getting somewhere............

so Tim Witherspoon can be compared with Francesco Pianeta?

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