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Old 02-03-2013, 10:54 PM #11
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A bum? You may not like Ali but to say he was a bum is just wrong.

Liston was feared but Ali beat him easily. A bum would not have been able to do that. A bum beat Frazier and Foreman?
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If you watch the video he actually makes good points. He shit's on Roger Mayweather's boxing knowledge.
You are the worst kind of person.

Your hatred is not decided on shyt personalities
Floyd/Broner

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Your hatred simply group up all the above fighters into one category:

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well when pac losses to jmm all you hear is ''he was an overrated bum''

but when ali losses to ken norton ''he's still the greatest''
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I respect that he has one and is voicing it.

I do however disagree...although I don't consider him The GOAT
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well when pac losses to jmm all you hear is ''he was an overrated bum''

but when ali losses to ken norton ''he's still the greatest''
Nobody calls Pac or seriously believe Pac was or is a bum.

It's only retarded Floyd fans...


Pac was just about as shot as Ali was against Norton.

Both were past prime and a few years removed from their best days.
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well when pac losses to jmm all you hear is ''he was an overrated bum''

but when ali losses to ken norton ''he's still the greatest''
That's only Floyd/Broner fans
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well when pac losses to jmm all you hear is ''he was an overrated bum''

but when ali losses to ken norton ''he's still the greatest''
People that call Pac an overrated bum are trolls. No reasonable boxing fan would have that opinion.
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People that call Pac an overrated bum are trolls. No reasonable boxing fan would have that opinion.
i thought the one who call him bum are real boxing fans...
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There's no official title 'boxing historian'.

I could declare myself one and it wouldn't mean ****.

A 'bum', would never beat Patterson, Liston, Frazier, Norton and Foreman in one career. Contrarian old fool.
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I like this old guy, he gives his honest opinion, and makes a good point but I wouldn't call Ali a bum that is harsh he sounds like a Flom0 there lol. but people take into account the type of political figure he was and use that aura and his illness and all the hype and publicity he received during the civil rights movement and celeb backing he had and call him the greatest, but if he didn't stand up against the war or was used as a political civil rights figure he would be just another boxer with a loud mouth.

Judge his boxing not his outside accomplishments and political movement.

Ali had a lot of suspect wins too, like when Dundee cut his gloves, also his norton fights, and he was knocked down by a small fighter and almost out, lost the first fight to Frazier, struggled with frazier, to me Ali's best win is George Foreman but even that is tarnished because Foreman could have been slipped mickey and given drugged water in that corrupt country, also Ali used PEDS for the Holmes fight just watch the 30 30 episode. I think Cus D Amato called Ali a bum who fought nothing but bum of the month, Cus even said he could develop a fighter to beat him.

I like Ali but I do think he is kinda overrated, my favorite heavyweight was Larry Holmes, very underrated and also George Foreman and Lennox Lewis.
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