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Old 02-02-2013, 11:22 AM
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Still it got done.

Jack Dempsey didn't fight the deserving black fighters.

Ray Robinson didnt fight Charley Burley or the Cocoa Kid.
Maybe, but the Robinson stuff is WAY overrated . Armstrong has a far bigger knock for not fighting those two as they were actually his contenders at Welterweight, and even he doesn't merit much of one.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:16 PM
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This one has to be among the biggest. It was that blatant.

Still it got done.

Jack Dempsey didn't fight the deserving black fighters.

Ray Robinson didnt fight Charley Burley or the Cocoa Kid.
Whether it was done or not doesnt change the fact that Liston was ducked for years. That's not debatable. If you're nitpicking over semantics that's another issue.






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Old 02-02-2013, 09:32 PM
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Mayweather DLH rematch. The PPV did record numbers. It was a split decision.. A rematch was the last thing Floyd wanted....so he retired. Didn't come back until DLH Was retired.
Then there is the whole Manny duck as well.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:33 PM
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Mayweather DLH rematch. The PPV did record numbers. It was a split decision.. A rematch was the last thing Floyd wanted....so he retired. Didn't come back until DLH Was retired.
Then there is the whole Manny duck as well.
.... I was going to say Pac ducking Floyd
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:37 PM
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.... I was going to say Pac ducking Floyd
Then you realized how stupid that would be because it was Floyd that did the ducking. Proud of you. Keep up the good work.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:57 AM
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daffy duck, he sucked ass
Nah, he was funny, Donald was worse. He was lame.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:34 PM
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Then you realized how stupid that would be because it was Floyd that did the ducking. Proud of you. Keep up the good work.
You're letting your hatred for Floyd cloud you're reasoning process and coming accross as ignorant. There's no way Floyd, Pac or DLH are involved in the worst duck in history!

The facts: from the beginning Floyd said "take the test, Pac gets 40 million and Floyd gets the rest". Floyd never waivered from this and Pac/Arum never accepted these terms. How is this even remotely the worst duck in history? Instead of accepting the 40 million, Pac got KTFO for less than 1/3 of that and now its very doubtfull a Floyd/Pac matchup will ever be worth that kind of money. Betcha Pac regrets not taking the offer
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:08 PM
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But he did agree to take the test. They just couldn't agree on a cutoff date. And when Pac agreed to Floyd's terms, then, all of a sudden, there was a disagreement on money. There was ducking on both sides there, but not the worst ever. I still say Bowe ducking Lewis was worse.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:10 PM
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But he did agree to take the test. They just couldn't agree on a cutoff date. And when Pac agreed to Floyd's terms, then, all of a sudden, there was a disagreement on money. There was ducking on both sides there, but not the worst ever. I still say Bowe ducking Lewis was worse.
During the first negotiations in 2009, Floyd requested the test and Manny walked away.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:09 AM
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During the first negotiations in 2009, Floyd requested the test and Manny walked away.
I think that was Team Pacquiao just trying to play hardball and not let Mayweather have everything his own way, but then they realised that it was making them look bad. IIRC, they agreed to take the test shortly after walking away, they just wanted a 14-day cut-off point, which couldn't be agreed to.
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