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View Poll Results: Does Vitali Klitschko deserve an 'easy' farewell fight?
Yes, he's post-prime and only has one fight left. 6 26.09%
No, he's still WBC champion and should fight a HW 'contender'. 17 73.91%
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:53 PM
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Or should he fight one of the HW contenders (e.g. Pulev, Fury, Price, Helenius, Povetkin, Haye)?

He's aged and is clearly post-prime; but he's still WBC champion. So, does he 'deserve' an 'easy' farewell fight?

Your thoughts, please.



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Old 01-30-2013, 02:59 PM
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Or should he fight one of the HW contenders (e.g. Pulev, Fury, Price, Helenius, Povetkin, Haye)?

He's aged and is clearly post-prime; but he's still WBC champion. So, does he 'deserve' an 'easy' farewell fight?

Your thoughts, please.



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Old 01-30-2013, 03:00 PM
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I'm not certain yet, but it seems Vitali is retiring.

So Charr was his "farewell" opponent.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:03 PM
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I'm not certain yet, but it seems Vitali is retiring.

So Charr was his "farewell" opponent.
You may be right, Freedom.

But I would have thought he'd have had his 'farewell' fight in Kiev.

I guess we'll see. Haye offers nothing to Vitali's resume; some of the other contenders, though, may do.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:07 PM
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Yeah, but even so, I still think he should leave Haye out in the cold.
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But I would have thought he'd have had his 'farewell' fight in Kiev.
He was planning on fighting Charr in Kiev, but the municipal government prevented it (they are aligned with one of Vitali's opposing political parties).
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David Haye is an easy fight, so sure.
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Not only does he need to fight the very best, but so does Roy Jones. No one should be allowed to get old or take fights appropriate to their physical condition. Die in the ring or get mocked on the forum, your choice.
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He should be allowed to have an easy farewell fight only if Haye kicks his ass.
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He's had nothing but gimmes for years now. A tough fight would jarr him.
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