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View Poll Results: Who has taken on the riskier fights / opponents
Manny has taken on the risker fights 126 71.59%
Floyd has taken on the riskier fights 22 12.50%
About the same 17 9.66%
BURGER KING BABY!!! 11 6.25%
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#131
Old 01-25-2013, 03:11 PM
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Manny Pacquiao

-Barrera
-JMM (who a lot of people didn't want to fight)
-Morales
-Morales II (after losing in a war, he fought him again)
-JMM II (after many people thought Marquez won, Pacuqiao took a risk and fought him again)
-ODLH (considered a horrible cherry pick at the time since DLH had gotten titles at MW and Pacquiao only had 1 fight at LW)
Miguel Cotto (even with the CW it was considered a big risk)
Margarito(even after a lose Margarito had a huge size advantage)
Bradley (Young prime undefeated boxer with good technical abilities)
Marquez IV (the 3rd fight was a cherry pick but the 4th wasn't even with a size advantage facing a guy that had arguably beat him 2-3 times was a risk)

Pacquiao =10


Floyd Mayweather

-Hernandez (Floyd's age and first title fight)
-Corrales
-Castillo II (After arguably losing to Castillo he rematched him)
-ODLH (moving up in weight, not that big of a risk)

Floyd = 4

that's pretty much it. Only Trout, Martinez or Canelo fights would be risks.
Guerrero wouldn't. Maybe that speaks of Mayweather's skills and greatness or his great cherry picking skills + hype. Like trying to make a shot Cotto seem 2nd prime'd and undefeated, calling Ortiz the quitter a "Young hungry Lion"etc
how come castillio 1 wasnt listed??????????? but morales 1 and 2 are listed

how is DLH s risky fight for pac but not for floyd??????

why isnt cotto a risk for floyd? but for pac???? because he lost before?

floyd isnt this huge WW u know?

otherwise good post

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Old 01-25-2013, 03:11 PM
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Well there are more Manny groupies on here so ofcourse i would expect Manny to win.




Floyd:

1.Genero Hernanadez,Most thought Floyd was too young to take that fight
2.Corrales,most thought he would ko Floyd
3.Oscar,Fought Oscar at his healthy weight;While Pacquiao drained him Floyd came in weighing at 150 on fight night While Oscar had to have outweighed floyd by atleast 15-20 pounds.
4.Jose Luis Castillo:twice
5.Cotto,Fought Cotto at a healthy weight;on the other hand Pacquiao weight drained him,Floyd came in weighing at 151 at fight night,While Cotto weighed more and was healthy.
6.Zab Judah,Slick hard punching fast southpaw,naturally bigger then Floyd,Floyd signed to fight Zab before Zab lost to Baldomir,Before Zab lost to Baldomir Zab was considered a big risk for Floyd.
Ortizutweighed Floyd by 14 pounds,Pacquiao avoided him.



Pacquiao:

1.Barrera,big risk for him.
2.Marquez big risk for him.
2.Eric Morales,big risk way past his Prime,was weight drained in the second and third fight.They knew Morales could no longer make 130 after their first fight,Pacquiao refused a catchweight.
3.Oscar:weight drained
4.Cotto:weight drained



Floyd wins because he never fought a weight drained boxer and has fought more number 1 ranked top fighters then Pacquiao.
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:12 PM
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But u failed to look at the other things that Floyd had over baldomir. What did PAC have over cotto? The catchweight? lol.
What does Mayweather have over Baldomir? An inch in height?

To be honest, I highly doubt Mayweather is 5 ft 8 anyway.
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:13 PM
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Even Manny moving up to fight DLH at a much higher weight class is more than Money took in risks.
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:13 PM
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Why do people even try to have a normal boxing discussion, NSB is full of fanboys, they fall into 2 categories.....

Floyd Fans who hate anything thing good regarding Pacquiao

Manny fans who hate Mayweather or anyone who reminds them of Mayweather

Neither one of them seem to be able to find a single fault in Pacquiao's or Mayweather's career.

And then you got the tweeners, the May fans that like Jmm because he Ko'd Pacquiao.

And then you got the Pacquiao fans that pretend to be a Jmm fan because they secretly would have never let it go if Pac had ko'd Jmm instead.
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:14 PM
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Well there are more Manny groupies on here so ofcourse i would expect Manny to win.




Floyd:

1.Genero Hernanadez,Most thought Floyd was too young to take that fight
2.Corrales,most thought he would ko Floyd
3.Oscar,Fought Oscar at his healthy weight;While Pacquiao drained him Floyd came in weighing at 150 on fight night While Oscar had to have outweighed floyd by atleast 15-20 pounds.
4.Jose Luis Castillo:twice
5.Cotto,Fought Cotto at a healthy weight;on the other hand Pacquiao weight drained him,Floyd came in weighing at 151 at fight night,While Cotto weighed more and was healthy.
6.Zab Judah,Slick hard punching fast southpaw,naturally bigger then Floyd,Floyd signed to fight Zab before Zab lost to Baldomir,Before Zab lost to Baldomir Zab was considered a big risk for Floyd.
Ortizutweighed Floyd by 14 pounds,Pacquiao avoided him.



Pacquiao:

1.Barrera,big risk for him.
2.Marquez big risk for him.
2.Eric Morales,big risk way past his Prime,was weight drained in the second and third fight.They knew Morales could no longer make 130 after their first fight,Pacquiao refused a catchweight.
3.Oscar:weight drained
4.Cotto:weight drained



Floyd wins because he never fought a weight drained boxer and has fought more number 1 ranked top fighters then Pacquiao.
zab judah is a risk for anyone 140-147
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:21 PM
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how come castillio 1 wasnt listed??????????? but morales 1 and 2 are listed

how is DLH s risky fight for pac but not for floyd??????

why isnt cotto a risk for floyd? but for pac???? because he lost before?

floyd isnt this huge WW u know?

otherwise good post
my point exactly..manny and floyd can fight the same people but they are risks for manny but not for floyd..hilarious
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:24 PM
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What does Mayweather have over Baldomir? An inch in height?

To be honest, I highly doubt Mayweather is 5 ft 8 anyway.
Every inches counts right lol. They sh1tted on pac vs cotto when it was 1lb different from the last cotto fight against clottey. Floyd also has longer reach. Like I say all baldomir have over Floyd was his weight whereas cotto is taller, heavier, longer reach. I'm done here though I can see this going back and fourth with no end lol props for keeping this debate clean though unlike others.

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Old 01-25-2013, 03:29 PM
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Why do people even try to have a normal boxing discussion, NSB is full of fanboys, they fall into 2 categories.....

Floyd Fans who hate anything thing good regarding Pacquiao

Manny fans who hate Mayweather or anyone who reminds them of Mayweather

Neither one of them seem to be able to find a single fault in Pacquiao's or Mayweather's career.

And then you got the tweeners, the May fans that like Jmm because he Ko'd Pacquiao.

And then you got the Pacquiao fans that pretend to be a Jmm fan because they secretly would have never let it go if Pac had ko'd Jmm instead.

But PAC fans can atleast admit when PAC looks bad or when PAC is in the wrong. Floyd fans see's Floyd only and only Floyd.
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