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Old 01-23-2013, 04:12 PM
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Well Chavez jr. was the #1 contender at the time, Macklin was he #2 contender, and Murray is currently the #8 contender. Kelly Pavlik was the lineal champion and Paul Williams was the #1 contender.

The most you can say is that Barker and Dzinziruk were 'weak' defenses but both those guys get really underrated around here and you have to keep in mind that everyone was ducking him back then. HBO forced the Dzinziruk fight on Martinez and Barker was a last minute opponent after Daniel Geale and Quillin (or rather his management) refused the Martinez fight.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:12 PM
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Floyd is a champ at 147 and154*
Martinez is a champ at 160
Martinez isnt fighting the top guys at 160
Floyd is fighting the top guys in both 147 and 154
Martinez isnt even fighting GGG lol whos in his weightclass
Martinez is calling out a 154 pounder a weight he hasnt fought in 5 yrs
Martinez is scared of his own division so he wants to come down
Martinez fears GGG
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:12 PM
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Sergio hasnt taken extened career breaks so people will be harsh on Floyd which is a very fair deal. You dont deliver like Floyd dont deliver, and have anti climatich comeback opponents then Floyd has it coming to him.
Sergio is also older than Floyd and wants to fight Floyd, it cant wait forever. Sergio wants to give the public what they want. Floyd dont mind fighting JMM when called out by JMM, but not Sergio?
Get outta here with the excuses Larry aka Floyd.

Sergio will probably fight at his normal weight then onwards rather than drain himself for Floyd.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:17 PM
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Why is Martinez 160 calling out Floyd at 154 when hes taking fights against Murray instead of Golovkin?
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:17 PM
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Floyd is fighting the top guys in both 147 and 154
he's not fighting trout
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:18 PM
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Well Chavez jr. was the #1 contender at the time, Macklin was he #2 contender, and Murray is currently the #8 contender. Kelly Pavlik was the lineal champion and Paul Williams was the #1 contender.

The most you can say is that Barker and Dzinziruk were 'weak' defenses but both those guys get really underrated around here and you have to keep in mind that everyone was ducking him back then. HBO forced the Dzinziruk fight on Martinez and Barker was a last minute opponent after Daniel Geale and Quillin (or rather his management) refused the Martinez fight.
So if Martinez fights Golovkin and beats him then he's ducking Pirog. If he beats Pirog then he's ducking a Chavez rematch. If he beat the 'new and improved' Chavez then he's ducking Quillin. If he beats Quillin, then he's ducking Geale and so on and so forth... meanwhile the guy isn't getting any younger.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:18 PM
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He hasn't avoided anyone, but he hasn't been fighting very good fights either. He's solely focused on money, which every other popular fighter in the sport gets heavily criticized for, yet people don't care that Martinez is fighting Darren Barker and Martin Murray and looking at a Chavez Jr. rematch.

Why not fight Pirog? He was more deserving than Barker. Why not fight Golovkin now? He's more deserving than Murray.
I want to see him fight GGG too but he just became deserving with this recent win and Martinez already has his lame az fight set up with Murray in Argentina, no way GGG fights him over there and he shouldnt , so lets hope that Sergio goes after GGG instead of a rematch with jr
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:20 PM
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he's not fighting trout
Lol. Trout is better than Canelo? I hate Canelo but I had to LOL again.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:24 PM
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Almost all the MWs are ducking him/taking other fights instead, save Golovkin

Geale
Sturm
Quillin
Pirog

They have no interest in fighting Sergio
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:25 PM
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I kinda agree with Larry here. B-Hop ALWAYS gets **** for fighting a smaller Trinidad, but Felix had already moved up to the weight, entered the unification tournament, and grabbed a belt. Rather than unify and clean out his division, he spent years chasing a money fight against baby Chavez who clearly was not ready and had no desire to fight him. And when he wasn't belittling Chavez's career, he was calling out Welterweights in Pacquiao and Floyd.

I'm a Martinez fan, but if he retires without at least attempting to clean out his division, I will be greatly disappointed.
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