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Old 01-20-2013, 02:36 PM
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What's so funny? The punch output of everybody that's fought Hopkins. I call it defensive swarming. He was a great boxer with speed in his prime but 40+ is a defensive swarmer that swarms you on the inside picks his shots while your punch output is an all time worst.
When Nard was younger he could just bully a guy, ie the Kieth Holmes fight.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:39 PM
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Sticking with HW's

Best boxer has to be Muhammad Ali

Swarmer - Smoking Joe Frazier without a doubt

Slugger - Clearly Big George Foreman.


Straight forward picks imo
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:23 PM
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Bernard is a boxer-swarmer.

Louis is THE boxer-puncher.

Isn't Robinson a BOXER-puncher due to his tendency to get into it? He knew he could afford to with his firepower and iron chin.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:53 PM
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Boxer: Robinson, with Gans and Charles close behind
Swarmer: Armstrong, with Greb close behind
Slugger: Wilfredo Gomez


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Boxer: Jofre
Swarmer: Harada
Slugger: Gomez

IMO, Bazooka is the GOAT slugger. Any thoughts?
Only really became a slugger in the 80s when he changed his style, he was more of a boxer puncher in his prime, I'd say Jofre was more of a swarmer type then a boxer as well, Brown, Lionel Rose, Chandler and probably a few other names would be bettrer suited

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Old 01-20-2013, 11:22 PM
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There are 4 styles:

Boxer: Defensive and skilled

Slugger: Large and Heavyhanded

Swarmer: Fast and powerful

Brawler: Gritty and tenacious (Margarito, Holyfield, Vitali)
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:09 PM
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Sticking with HW's

Best boxer has to be Muhammad Ali

Swarmer - Smoking Joe Frazier without a doubt

Slugger - Clearly Big George Foreman.


Straight forward picks imo
just shows you how great that era was to have 3 of the best at that time. I would still consider tyson more of a swarmer tho, so i would have him just above frazier but frazier is definitly the better example of a swarmer. I think the heavier the weight the clearer these styles are
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:17 AM
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I usually call brawlers "warriors" though, for their tendency to go toe to toe like Holyfield, Cotto, Gatti.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:27 AM
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Boxer: Sugar Ray Robinson
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Boxer: Sugar Ray Robinson
Swarmer: Aaron Pryor
Slugger: Roberto Duran
I wouldn't rate Duran a slugger, he was far more than that.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:30 PM
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I wouldn't rate Duran a slugger, he was far more than that.

The challenge this thread presents is to classify fighters into three basic categories of styles. On a P4P basis and by default, Duran was assigned to the slugger category. His versatility makes it very difficult to pigeon-hole, as he's exibited all three categories in one fight or another - vs Moore (boxer), vs Leonard (Swarmer/brawler) vs Cuevas (slugger) - to name a few.

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