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View Poll Results: Did Floyd "retire" in 2007 to avoid the top welterweights?
Yes, he was afraid of losing to them 324 86.86%
No, he just wanted a hiatus to spend more time with Ellerbe, like he said on TV 49 13.14%
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:02 PM
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The phuck are you going on about? What part of weight loss supplement do you not understand? The article says NOTHING about PEDs.

Your reading comprehension = fail.
The thing is Marg made a career out of draining himself to the max, while retaining chin and stamina. What was new in the Pac fight, other than the extra 3lbs he didn't have to sweat out?
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:06 PM
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The phuck are you going on about? What part of weight loss supplement do you not understand? The article says NOTHING about PEDs.

Your reading comprehension = fail.
Roach was worried that Margarito was taking PEDs and what was found was some a substance to either enhance or make whatever he had undetectable (ie. masking substance) and that "weight loss supplements" to lose weight was just a cover up.

The controversy was not about "Margarito being weight drained". If that is what you thought then I can't help with your comprehension. But to be fair, the way you posted, I think you just were not knowledgeable about what that article was about and what happened just before the fight between Manny vs Margarito.

EDIT: Just reread the article and it does state that they wanted "he be tested before the fight for possible banned substances"

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Old 01-19-2013, 06:38 PM
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LMAO, now you're just making sh1t up.

Roach was worried about Tony taking PEDs? Bwahahaha.

The only thing Freddie brought up was suspicion that Tony had plaster in his wraps for previous fights with Cotto, etc.

LMAO, you're pathetic.


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Roach was worried that Margarito was taking PEDs and what was found was some a substance to either enhance or make whatever he had undetectable (ie. masking substance) and that "weight loss supplements" to lose weight was just a cover up.

The controversy was not about "Margarito being weight drained". If that is what you thought then I can't help with your comprehension. But to be fair, the way you posted, I think you just were not knowledgeable about what that article was about and what happened just before the fight between Manny vs Margarito.

EDIT: Just reread the article and it does state that they wanted "he be tested before the fight for possible banned substances"
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:42 PM
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The fact that he'd been out of the ring for a year?

The fact that he hadn't made the 147 limit for nearly 2 years?

The fact that he fought at 154 his tune-up against a journeyman Garcia and looked like sh1t?

The fact that he had Hydroxycut with him before the Pac fight? What, you think he comfortably made 150 and the Hydroxycut was just there for headaches?

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The thing is Marg made a career out of draining himself to the max, while retaining chin and stamina. What was new in the Pac fight, other than the extra 3lbs he didn't have to sweat out?
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:47 PM
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The fact that he'd been out of the ring for a year?

The fact that he hadn't made the 147 limit for nearly 2 years?

The fact that he fought at 154 his tune-up against a journeyman Garcia and looked like sh1t?

The fact that he had Hydroxycut with him before the Pac fight? What, you think he comfortably made 150 and the Hydroxycut was just there for headaches?
How did he perform in the ring, like a drained fighter? No stamina, no punch resistance, no workrate, what?
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:00 PM
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can someone explain why spinks judah and baldomir were such great fighters? spinks lost to antonio diaz who margarito beat to a pulp. these guys weren't even above the competition margarito was fighting yet some people are pretending like they were great. so sad. the lineage was watered down so badly that a bum like baldomir eventually had it. AND THAT'S WHEN MAYWEATHER STRIKES!
So a lose for a green Spinks counts~

But Margarito's loses when he was green like to Rodney Jones don't count in your eyes, as you told me.


IF we are going to use Diaz~ Mosley beat him worse than Margarito and before Margarito did it~ and nobody rates that win for Mosley as something special.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:14 PM
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LMAO at you going off on tangents. You gonna keep asking different questions when you don't like the answers to your previous questions? You don't want to address the fact that he'd been suspended for a year, hadn't made 147 for nearly 2 years, looked like utter sh1t against Garcia at 154, then got caught with Hydroxycut while trying to make the 150 CW? You think all that was just 'business as usual'? Nothing different right? LMAO.

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Old 01-19-2013, 07:26 PM
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LMAO at you going off on tangents. You gonna keep asking different questions when you don't like the answers to your previous questions? You don't want to address the fact that he'd been suspended for a year, hadn't made 147 for nearly 2 years, looked like utter sh1t against Garcia at 154, then got caught with Hydroxycut while trying to make the 150 CW? You think all that was just 'business as usual'? Nothing different right? LMAO.
When you're talking about fighters being drained, the in ring performance is not a tangent, it's about the most important thing. I wouldn't doubt Marg took diuretics while he was at welter.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:40 PM
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LMAO, now you're just making sh1t up.

Roach was worried about Tony taking PEDs? Bwahahaha.

The only thing Freddie brought up was suspicion that Tony had plaster in his wraps for previous fights with Cotto, etc.

LMAO, you're pathetic.
Man, you really didn't know? Prior to the fight, they found a substance in Margarito's room. That is what the controversy was about that was mentioned in that article.

What do you think it was about if not about that? Reread that article you posted. It's even stated there.

You didn't see that fight live I'm presuming so you didn't see any of that .... you just saw the replay of the fight.
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:15 PM
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You moron, that 'substance' was Hydroxycut. Nappiao's camp never raised any issue about PEDs. WTF are you even talking about.

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Man, you really didn't know? Prior to the fight, they found a substance in Margarito's room. That is what the controversy was about that was mentioned in that article.

What do you think it was about if not about that? Reread that article you posted. It's even stated there.

You didn't see that fight live I'm presuming so you didn't see any of that .... you just saw the replay of the fight.
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