floyd's success above 135 is mostly based on other..

[Marvellous1]

I was going to do a like for like description of Pacquiao's career since moving up from 135lbs. List all the credible wins against welterweights and above and how many of them hadn't already beenrecently beaten (by Mayweather, ironically, or someone else), how many weren't tainted by catchweights and how many welterweights he's actually fought recently considering he IS campaigning there right?

But I think the better thing to do, is admit Mayweather could've made different choices and maybe his resume might be better. Fighting Cotto in '08 and fighting Margarito would make things better in some people's eyes. Maybe However, Tszyu should be left well out of it.... unless someone can tell me when he and Mayweather were realistically supposed to fight.

One more thing, can the thread starter or someone else say why they think Mayweather's career north of 135lbs is so much worse than Pacquiao's that it merits yet another thread while Pacquiao escapes similar analysis?

[crillz]

Originally Posted by puga

fighters success / wins....this is the truth
to his fans, it does'nt matter if he did'nt fight the biggest threat as long as he waited long enough until somebody beat that guy , then beating the latter was just as good...funny sh1t

kostya - got beat by hatton that floyd beat
margarito - got beat by shane that floyd beat
pacquiao- got beat by jmm that floyd beat

these are just some of the lameass arguments you get from his fans..
and this is the same reason why floyd gets labeled a ducker..and not becuase he's a villain , or becuase he's black or any other bs thats out there..

cotto- he did'nt want to fight floyd then according to his fans,... point they are missing is he did'nt fight him when a victory over cotto would've meant a lot...for some reason they think wanting to fight him and actaully fighting him are the same thing...lol

now that the biggest threat just lost, floyd's back to action to prove he's the number# 1 guy p4p ...vs the number 1 available opponent... this is true on paper, ..but i think it's safe to say that floyd is only willing to fight the number 1 opponent when the division he wants to fight in at becomes weak..

this is not a pac vs may thread btw.. it's only a floyd thread but feel free to post anything, i aint that sensitive...

you a hater man that's the only thing I can think of to explain why you come up with this because it's all pieced together crap based on opinion when FACT says Floyd fought some great fighters in their prime early on and he hasn't stopped facing world class opposition since Genaro. you clearly hate Floyd I just don't know why

[letsgobrady]

who is margarito?what was his signature win?who has a better resume at ww in the last couple years than floyd?
you look at a fighter like pacquiao the last couple of years he has only gotten so much credit because he was looked at as the smaller fighter not because he was fighting the best competition

[letsgobrady]

Originally Posted by Pan-Africanist

Do people realize Margarito hasnt won one round since being busted for illegal handwraps? And this is the bum thats suspodes to boost up the great Floyd Mayweathers resume? Hysterical. Margaritos more famous for calling Floyd out more than anything he ever did in the ring. Hes lost every big fight hes been in.

this is so true the majority of people didn't know margarito untill he became linked to mayweather

[ADP02]

Originally Posted by HAVISJ

Why do you guys keep talking about the man going on vacation or retiring? Doesn't he have the right to do so? The man has been boxing before he started walking.
Damn, I swear you guys are undercover Floyd fans. The ones talking about him are far worse than his fans. One a daily basis, the hate threads outweigh the fan threads. Oh, you can be your own boss and take advise from people, there're called advisors. Every boss has an advisory staff

lol! Floyd just happened to do it at the right time twice! That was the point .... if Floyd would have said, retire or I fight Baldomir then that would have been one thing but fight a JWW then retire then vacation again when he didn't want to fight Manny?

The point is that if there is very few to cherry pick from then he vacations.

[ADP02]

Originally Posted by josenoway

Mosley left GBP to get the Manny fight.
Mayweather was already a year into retirement when the Pac-Oscar fight happened.

And lmao at citing the Cotto fight, that's the same Miguel that your little tin can hypejob refused to fight without a 148 cw.

That was the point .... others would do anything to fight Manny, Margarito, Cotto as Mosley did but Floyd didn't try even though he keeps on telling us that he is his own boss.

Manny vs Oscar and other TR vs GB fights are just proof that it can be done so stop with your excuses and AGAIN, isn't Floyd his own boss?

What about those like P. Williams who called out Floyd and are not under TR? Just admit that Floyd is not as concerned about his legacy as his fans are and is just doing it for the money. Then we can stop with these threads!!!

Only Floyd fans would have the courage to bring up Cotto's name. Floyd fought Cotto 5 years too late when it was a relatively safer fight.

[hugh grant]

Floyd is joke in boxing circles to real fans. JMM calls Floyd out, Floyd is happy to fight JMM. Sergio calls Floyd out, and Floyd dont answer.
Floyd is happy to fight Hatton after hatton was nearly koed by Collazo, so Collazo ruined hatton, not Floyd.

Floyd watches his peers beat up on each other then tries stealing credit off of the man who just had 4 fights against hard competitors. Floyds opponent had a good run, but of course is due a bad performance, and thats when Floyd steps in.

[Jcsuper]

Floyd is joke in boxing circles to real fans. JMM calls Floyd out, Floyd is happy to fight JMM. Sergio calls Floyd out, and Floyd dont answer.
Floyd is happy to fight Hatton after hatton was nearly koed by Collazo, so Collazo ruined hatton, not Floyd.

Floyd watches his peers beat up on each other then tries stealing credit off of the man who just had 4 fights against hard competitors. Floyds opponent had a good run, but of course is due a bad performance, and thats when Floyd steps in.

If Floyd fight Sergio and beat him will you say Sergio was nearly knocked by Chavez Jr ? The same way you say that **** about Hatton.

The thing is that if Floyd didnt fight Hatton you would hate like a mad man that he was scared. If he fights and beat him then he was waiting till Collazo nearly knocked him. Problems with haters is that that find a way to hate no matter what.