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Old 01-16-2013, 09:16 PM
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interesting gif...so marquez in his prime landed that same over hand right but couldn't knock down pac..yet at 39 yrs old he's able to land the same punch on pac but this time was packing enough power to knock hm down effortlessly with it....and at 39 years old. heredia supplying the good ****....
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looks about the same...even the way pac was moving back. only difference was marquez was packing more power at 39 years old...just look at how ripped and huge his upper body is.
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pac's stance looks practically the same.....only real difference is pac dropped both of his hands the first time, and marquez had enough power at 39 years old to drop him in the 4th fight. even in the second fight marquez was landing hard flush shots on pac...only difference is that now at 39 years old marquez has more power than guys like miguel cotto and antonio margarito...marquez knocked pac out cold..almost dead like...with ONE punch...even nacho was surprised at how more explosive and harder a puncher marquez has become.
You guys are kidding right? How long have you watched boxing for? Are you so far up your own arses, you don't see what's happening here?

Just explain this one thing for me: Pac lands the straight left on Marquez a thousand times. Why doesn't he drop him every time like he did in the their first round? It's the exact same punch.

Because it's ****ing boxing you little ****suckers! Not every punch lands exactly the same.

Let me illustrate this. Their fourth fight, Marquez is much closer to Pac and isn't extended over his front leg with his feet not set at all and he catches Pac in the middle of his punch, instead of at the end where there is much less power. He also catches him on the side of his cheek in the 4th so it snaps his head more, instead of closer to the middle of his head where his neck takes more of the impact.

Unless you're blind retards, you would know this happens in boxing in every single fight since the start of its history.

Marquez landed the exact same punch that KHTFO two rounds before. Why didn't it put him to sleep? It was exactly the same punch. Come on geniuses, explain it? Explain why every landed straight left doesn't put Marquez down? That's what you're implying. That two similar punches, whether landed differently or not, must have the same effect.

That two similar punches have to have had the same force, same impact, same shock, same trajectory, same speed, power, stance....on and on. Yet, you don't even talk about why Pac couldn't drop Marquez in their second fight with the same hard left hands, or drop him at all in their third fight, despite landing hard straight left hands like he did in the first round.

Power comes from the feet right? All you need to do is look at the difference between his stance. First one he's already moving onto his front leg and taking away his power because Pac is further away, thus landing the shot at the end of its arc. The knock down one, he is right up close, and has full power from his stance right in the perfect centre with both feet set.

His feet are perfectly and completely set right as he lands the punch, with Pac much closer. It could not have been better for him. The first isn't remotely similar, apart from it being the same type of punch. A looping overhand right. Where Pac is, how far away he is, where the punch is in its trajectory, Marquez' feet, and the intent he has. All different. In context, you can also see Marquez has thought to what might come back in the first fight punch, because he is pushing back and thinking about defense straight away, hence his feet not being so set. In the fourth fight, he is only thinking about landing that punch with full force, and nothing after.

It's as different as the straight left hands that hit Marquez clean and put him down and those that did not. It's as ****ing simple as that you morons. Grow a goddamned brain. Stop being ignorant little *****es.

You guys see this every fight, yet you still can't work it out. You honestly think, really honestly think, that every punch that is remotely similar should work the same way and have exactly the same impact?

Why doesn't every liver shot drop a guy? It's the exact same punch. Why doesn't someone who can KO a guy with it do it every time he lands it? Why not?

Why did Castillo suddenly drop Corrales twice late in the fight with two counter left hooks, ones that he had landed over and over before? Why did it take 8/9 rounds for Ward to drop Ausgustus with a body shot, despite landing 4000 of the same shot before?

Why did Khan nearly put Maidana out in the first round with a body shot, yet couldn't even get him down at all for the next 11 rounds, with the same shot?

Why did Pac stop Morales twice, with the same left hands, but couldn't even put him down once in the first fight? MUST BE ROIDS!!!!! IT'S THE ONLY EXPLANATION! There is no other explanation. ****ing dumb cunts.

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Old 01-16-2013, 09:22 PM
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yup, that's what i thought. you are not 100% sure Marquez is clean.
Ill leave it at this, I gave more time to this then it deserves. You know you got owned. You just THINK marquez cheated, cool its your opinion, But the facts are

Marquez Passed the drug test 100%
Marquez offered Pacquaio any Drug Test he wanted as long as he abide by the same terms, Pacquaio never took him up on that offer.
Marquez won by vicious KO

A refresher for your memory as it seems you felt that punch more then Pacquiao actually did.

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Old 01-16-2013, 09:27 PM
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What's with the crying in this thread? They both had good moments, landed great hard shots, and both had knocked each other down. Marquez knocked him out and that's that. It's still good to see highlights of Pacquiao though since all we've been seeing is the Marquez KO replay.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:27 PM
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so in other words you are not 100% sure Marquez is clean. Thank you. move along now.
By that standard we are not 100% sure if most fighters in the history of boxing have been clean including Pacquiao, so let's just assume they all dope. Unless you submit to 365 24/7 drug testing you can't be sure. Even then the delusional PAC fans would not give Marquez credit. They would say he would pass the test with Memo's magic potions.
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no f@gg0t...that's you trolling while people are having a decent boxing discussion


go youtube Broner dancing or something and leave
I don't know what the hell you two are talking about, but that was funny
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:45 PM
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Ill leave it at this, I gave more time to this then it deserves. You know you got owned. You just THINK marquez cheated, cool its your opinion, But the facts are

Marquez Passed the drug test 100%
Marquez offered Pacquaio any Drug Test he wanted as long as he abide by the same terms, Pacquaio never took him up on that offer.
Marquez won by vicious KO

A refresher for your memory as it seems you felt that punch more then Pacquiao actually did.

"owned"?? Lol How can you "own" me when even you are not 100% sure Marquez is clean?
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:50 PM
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I doubt Marquez was clean based on age and physique...but I seriously doubt pac was clean all those years.
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I dont remember Hatton fans being so butthurt by the ko at the hands of that ped freak pac was and still is.

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What's with the crying in this thread? They both had good moments, landed great hard shots, and both had knocked each other down. Marquez knocked him out and that's that. It's still good to see highlights of Pacquiao though since all we've been seeing is the Marquez KO replay.
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And clearly that means that we should never talk about the fight unless we are saying, "LOLOL Pacroid got put to sleep!"

We should certainly never make threads talking about how good a fight it was!
what is there to talk about? he got ktfo by slow 40 yr old lw.....nothing of what sleepy head did was impressive because jmm is a 40 yr lw. the fact that poochiao got ktfo make it even more worse for him.
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