Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
Reply
Thread Navigation

#11
Old 01-15-2013, 06:55 AM
P4P_No1
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,166
Rep Power: 13 P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,000,474,705.80
Bank: 428,205,813.48
Total Points: 10,428,680,519.28
merry christmas - the collector 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hugh grant View Post
JMM begged like a dog, so got his rematch. If pac has to beg, he should get a rematch as well.
Pac wasnt obligated to give a rematch cos its close. Pac could have fought JMM 50 times and no ko, so when does it stop. Ok JMM got the ko but hes still behind Pac.
It wasn't just JMM though that wanted the 4th fight (I have to admit I didn't).

Everyone was still pissed about that 3rd fight. Roach wanted the 4th fight cause he was tired of JMM and everyone else thinking that Pac lost.

Pac wanted it because it was money and he want to "prove himself".

What's the point of this fight? There is none. Even the 4th fight had sort of a point. I think everyone sorta came to the conculsion (whether it was said in public or not) that if it ended by KO that was it.

How do they market this fight?

There's no need IMO for it.
Reply With Quote
P4P_No1 is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#12
Old 01-15-2013, 07:54 AM
hugh grant
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The British Empire
Posts: 12,122
Rep Power: 45 hugh grant has a reputation beyond repute hugh grant has a reputation beyond repute hugh grant has a reputation beyond repute hugh grant has a reputation beyond repute hugh grant has a reputation beyond repute hugh grant has a reputation beyond repute hugh grant has a reputation beyond repute hugh grant has a reputation beyond repute hugh grant has a reputation beyond repute hugh grant has a reputation beyond repute hugh grant has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,038,363,531.14
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,038,363,531.14
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - S a m u r a i  Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - S a m u r a i  Cesarean Sections - Headaches - Hospice Care - Multiple Myeloma - S a m u r a i  Eating Disorders - Esophageal Cancer - Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease - Irritable Bowel Syndrome - Pulmonary Hypertension - rorymac  Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - I'm so sorry 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by P4P_No1 View Post
It wasn't just JMM though that wanted the 4th fight (I have to admit I didn't).

Everyone was still pissed about that 3rd fight. Roach wanted the 4th fight cause he was tired of JMM and everyone else thinking that Pac lost.

Pac wanted it because it was money and he want to "prove himself".

What's the point of this fight? There is none. Even the 4th fight had sort of a point. I think everyone sorta came to the conculsion (whether it was said in public or not) that if it ended by KO that was it.

How do they market this fight?

There's no need IMO for it.
Lots think like this, but most people came to the conclusion if they had 15 fights, it would always be close. In 15 fights it would always be close with maybe a ko or 2 in that amount of fights.

So there was no point in the 3 and 4th fights you could say. If JMM got a decision in the 2nd or 3rd fight it would probably be close and Pac fans saying robbery.

When SRR and raging bull fought were they always close? When Ali fought Frasier they were always competitive and would always be competitive. But as long as the public want to see competive fights that more than enough reason.
Reply With Quote
hugh grant is offline
#13
Old 01-15-2013, 08:24 AM
Suavecito80
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: N.O.
Posts: 2,647
Rep Power: 11 Suavecito80 has a reputation beyond repute Suavecito80 has a reputation beyond repute Suavecito80 has a reputation beyond repute Suavecito80 has a reputation beyond repute Suavecito80 has a reputation beyond repute Suavecito80 has a reputation beyond repute Suavecito80 has a reputation beyond repute Suavecito80 has a reputation beyond repute Suavecito80 has a reputation beyond repute Suavecito80 has a reputation beyond repute Suavecito80 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,261,939.06
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,000,261,939.06
my bad bro!! - Mr. Philadel  For keeping in real papa. - SnakeVen0m 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hugh grant View Post
JMM begged like a dog, so got his rematch. If pac has to beg, he should get a rematch as well.
Pac wasnt obligated to give a rematch cos its close. Pac could have fought JMM 50 times and no ko, so when does it stop. Ok JMM got the ko but hes still behind Pac.


He's behind pacquaio alright...as in looking at his back while pacquiao lay flat on his face.
Reply With Quote
Suavecito80 is offline
#14
Old 01-15-2013, 08:49 AM
P4P_No1
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,166
Rep Power: 13 P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute P4P_No1 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,000,474,705.80
Bank: 428,205,813.48
Total Points: 10,428,680,519.28
merry christmas - the collector 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hugh grant View Post
Lots think like this, but most people came to the conclusion if they had 15 fights, it would always be close. In 15 fights it would always be close with maybe a ko or 2 in that amount of fights.

So there was no point in the 3 and 4th fights you could say. If JMM got a decision in the 2nd or 3rd fight it would probably be close and Pac fans saying robbery.

When SRR and raging bull fought were they always close? When Ali fought Frasier they were always competitive and would always be competitive. But as long as the public want to see competive fights that more than enough reason.
Don't get me wrong, if it gets made I'll definitely be watching it I just generally don't see the point in it.

I mean how do they market this fight either to the point where the public will buy it?

I think the IV fight was built as though this is it. This is the final one, especially if ends in a KO and that's what happened.

Me, personally, I wouldn't wanna see it again and if JMM isn't looking to fight a Bradley/Rios/etc then just hang em up.

He can retire knowing he get the biggest W in his career.
Reply With Quote
P4P_No1 is offline
#15
Old 01-15-2013, 08:54 AM
2120
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Age: 32
Posts: 1,672
Rep Power: 13 2120 has a reputation beyond repute 2120 has a reputation beyond repute 2120 has a reputation beyond repute 2120 has a reputation beyond repute 2120 has a reputation beyond repute 2120 has a reputation beyond repute 2120 has a reputation beyond repute 2120 has a reputation beyond repute 2120 has a reputation beyond repute 2120 has a reputation beyond repute 2120 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 21,277,052,004.82
Bank: 1,907,785,073.51
Total Points: 23,184,837,078.33
Be Joyful - Gift Giver  Have some green :) - dancovboxer 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Gift Giver  Childhood Cancer - S K I N 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hugh grant View Post
JMM begged like a dog, so got his rematch. If pac has to beg, he should get a rematch as well.
Pac wasnt obligated to give a rematch cos its close. Pac could have fought JMM 50 times and no ko, so when does it stop. Ok JMM got the ko but hes still behind Pac.

i guess you are right since pac is lying down face first so his back is to him technically Marquez is behind him but i think you are reaching

for me it was more like Marquez is standing over him

check the sig below as a reference
Reply With Quote
2120 is offline
#16
Old 01-15-2013, 09:03 AM
S. Saddler 1310
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,531
Rep Power: 0 S. Saddler 1310 has a reputation beyond repute S. Saddler 1310 has a reputation beyond repute S. Saddler 1310 has a reputation beyond repute S. Saddler 1310 has a reputation beyond repute S. Saddler 1310 has a reputation beyond repute S. Saddler 1310 has a reputation beyond repute S. Saddler 1310 has a reputation beyond repute S. Saddler 1310 has a reputation beyond repute S. Saddler 1310 has a reputation beyond repute S. Saddler 1310 has a reputation beyond repute S. Saddler 1310 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,998,948,943.14
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,998,948,943.14
Default

this is a fair comment.


but it is quite funny that Team Pacquiao are so selective over which losses they want to avenge.
Reply With Quote
S. Saddler 1310 is offline
#17
Old 01-15-2013, 09:19 AM
B.U.R.N.E.R
DrinkingMannyFanTears
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 36,601
Rep Power: 89 B.U.R.N.E.R has a reputation beyond repute B.U.R.N.E.R has a reputation beyond repute B.U.R.N.E.R has a reputation beyond repute B.U.R.N.E.R has a reputation beyond repute B.U.R.N.E.R has a reputation beyond repute B.U.R.N.E.R has a reputation beyond repute B.U.R.N.E.R has a reputation beyond repute B.U.R.N.E.R has a reputation beyond repute B.U.R.N.E.R has a reputation beyond repute B.U.R.N.E.R has a reputation beyond repute B.U.R.N.E.R has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 201,214,210,635,932.09
Bank: 18,082,379,600,102.69
Total Points: 219,296,590,236,034.81
No Message - No Ceilings  No Message - No Ceilings  One that you haven't bought  :lol1: - Fiend  F*ck the haters, keep doing your thing man. - S A M U R A I  Enjoy it homie. - California Love 
Thanks for the stream. - California Love  welcome to fatherhood my dude!! - SekondzOut  good luck in the league, you'll need it - El Mustang  late congrats on your baby, you will treasure her and god bless you man , that is all - Tha_Greatest  Congrats on joining Imdazed's cheerleading squad. - Mr. Copeland 
For still being a trolling coward. - Jim Jeffries  Feliz Navidad - El Mustang  i like your avatar - zab191  one more - miamike  Good post. - FeFist 
quit monkeyin' around bro - cawadoody  Merry Christmas Burner. Drink up, relax with your loved ones and smile, because you know you have it good. - deanrw  You might need this one day - mesher  Good post. - FeFist  can watch wshh videos on it :D - thuggery 
Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS) - No Ceilings  Emphysema - Lung Cancer - Lung Disease - Multiple Sclerosis - No Ceilings  Cesarean Sections - Headaches - Hospice Care - Multiple Myeloma - No Ceilings  Childhood Cancer - No Ceilings  Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - No Ceilings 
Graves Disease - Lymphedema - Men's Health - Pro Choice - Prostate Cancer - Scleroderma - Thyroid Disease - Trisomy 18 - No Ceilings  Cancer - Epilepsy - Foster Care - Gynecological Cancer - Rett Syndrome - No Ceilings  Emphysema - Lung Cancer - Lung Disease - Multiple Sclerosis - No Ceilings  AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - No Ceilings  Hodgkin's Disease - Testicular Cancer - No Ceilings 
Hepatitis C - No Ceilings  Myasthenia Gravis - Ovarian Cancer - Sexual Assault - Substance Abuse - No Ceilings  Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - No Ceilings  Eating Disorders - Esophageal Cancer - Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease - Irritable Bowel Syndrome - Pulmonary Hypertension - No Ceilings  Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - No Ceilings 
Childhood Cancer - Grand Champ  Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - El Cabron  Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - PensionKiller  Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - -Top Rank-  Gay and Lesbian Pride - Queen_Leia 
Default

This fight is dead to me. Anyone saying a 5th fight is needed is full of shyt. What if Pac wins the 5th do we now get a 6th? Enough already.
Reply With Quote
B.U.R.N.E.R is offline
#18
Old 01-15-2013, 01:53 PM
hectari
Power to the People
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,682
Rep Power: 5848 hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 50,945,000,068,038.77
Bank: 889,392,883,757,338.38
Total Points: 940,337,883,825,377.12
Great job exposing these idiots - thuggery  So you can kiss your favorite boxer's butt - ShoulderRoll  pepsi on me... - PAC-BOY  A glass of the finest French wine - QuebecSTAR2  Cheers brotha :afro: - Opinionated 
Some great posts - jas  funny anti-pac and anti-floyd troll - jas  one of the greats - sugarsmosley  hilarious heavyweight pic thread lmao - jas  he's one lucky wanker - -jose- 
No Message - PorterIsFuture  No Message - Mike D  cheers brotha - Mike D 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MANIAC310 View Post
Actually Marquez said he wasn't sure if he was still going to fight... he was seriously thinking about retiring


While Pacquiao openly called Marquez out and even called someone in Marquez's camp personally and told them he wanted to fight Marquez again even if he had to put money from his own pocket
You realize Marquez has the final decision? Nobody can force him to fight or not. The 5th fight is up to him and nobody else, no matter how much Pac, Arum the fans want it, he is the only one who can give the greenlight.

Those fans complaining about the 5th fight seem to not put any blame on Marquez, when he is the only one who should be blamed if they have a problem with it.
Reply With Quote
hectari is offline
#19
Old 01-15-2013, 01:55 PM
hectari
Power to the People
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,682
Rep Power: 5848 hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute hectari has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 50,945,000,068,038.77
Bank: 889,392,883,757,338.38
Total Points: 940,337,883,825,377.12
Great job exposing these idiots - thuggery  So you can kiss your favorite boxer's butt - ShoulderRoll  pepsi on me... - PAC-BOY  A glass of the finest French wine - QuebecSTAR2  Cheers brotha :afro: - Opinionated 
Some great posts - jas  funny anti-pac and anti-floyd troll - jas  one of the greats - sugarsmosley  hilarious heavyweight pic thread lmao - jas  he's one lucky wanker - -jose- 
No Message - PorterIsFuture  No Message - Mike D  cheers brotha - Mike D 
Thumbs down

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rip Chudd View Post
Hmm I could of sworn it takes 2 people to get in the ring in order for a fight to happen
Sighs.

Without Marquez approval the fight doesn't happen. Its like people calling out Floyd, he has the final say who he wants to fight. Do you not understand that hte power hangs in Marquez hands in this decision? He doesn't need the 5th fight he just knocked Pacquiao out cold, so its his choice if he wants to give Pacquiao that fight or not nobody elses.
Reply With Quote
hectari is offline
#20
Old 01-15-2013, 01:56 PM
DeadLikeMe
................
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 10,774
Rep Power: 67 DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 2,000,005,007,548,854.50
Bank: 103,101,237,921,021,536.00
Total Points: 105,101,242,928,570,384.00
Merry Christmas - Flab  ...and a Happy New Year! - Flab  owning pactards - I'm so sorry  No Message - MARKBNLV  No Message - MARKBNLV 
No Message - MARKBNLV  Thanks for joining the discussion in my thread about GF's and boxing, its nice to hear everyones experiences with being a fan of the sport!!! - Atreyu Khalil  No Message - WESS  Thanks for the green - damit305  :rofl: :rofl: Your post on triggs thread - jose830 
No Message - WESS  have a cold one on me - sugarsmosley  Good post about Maidana - punchr 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hugh grant View Post
Lots think like this, but most people came to the conclusion if they had 15 fights, it would always be close. In 15 fights it would always be close with maybe a ko or 2 in that amount of fights.

So there was no point in the 3 and 4th fights you could say. If JMM got a decision in the 2nd or 3rd fight it would probably be close and Pac fans saying robbery.

When SRR and raging bull fought were they always close? When Ali fought Frasier they were always competitive and would always be competitive. But as long as the public want to see competive fights that more than enough reason.
.....exhibit A

Quote:
Originally Posted by hugh grant View Post
1.Pac (by the skin of his teeth no1, benefit of the doubt as he was ahead on points against JMM)
2.JMM (losing to Pac before ko) dont get favourism cos of a ko win
3.Ward
4 Sergio
5 Floyd
6 Donaire
7 Bradley
8 Wlad
9 Froch, although kessler might say i beat Froch how comes hes ahead of me.
10 Broner
Reply With Quote
DeadLikeMe is online now
Reply

Share This With Friends

Tags
blame , marquez. , pacquiao-marquez , problem

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright 2003-2014 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:38 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.