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Old 01-14-2013, 11:16 PM
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I thought gatekeepers where the guys that couldnt even get matches against champs, and would lose or expose every prospect on the rise.

Guys like Judah, Cotto, etc. are still only losing against top level champs, once they start losing to prospects or even other contenders then they start becoming gatekeepers.

Carlos Quintana for example is a true gatekeeper now.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:19 PM
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:24 PM
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Another guy that just sprung to mind is Grady Brewer.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:24 PM
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Exactly. Some people on here just hate on the guy due to their own nationalistic beefs, the dude is still a top fighter. A gatekeeper to me is like Mayorga, maybe even Khan. Guys that are entertaining to watch but have an extreme deficiency that stops them from ever truly making their mark on the sport.
You say that but Khan has very good wins over Judah, Maidana, a faded Barrera, Kotelnik, Malignaggi, (should have one over Peterson IMO). I think Gatekeepers are exactly that a test to see whether you are ready to fight world level guys. Khan has proven he can beat world class fighters. Khan's gatekeeper was probably a faded Barrera because you see the jump in competition -> Barrera -> Kotelnik -> Malignaggi -> Maidana ->Judah -> Peterson&Garcia.

Mayorga isn't a gatekeeper either; how many prospects have used Mayorga as a "gate" to world class fighters? Think about it Cotto, Spinks, Trinidad, Mosley, Oscar were all world class fighters when they beat Mayorga. And he has wins over Forrest, Vargas, Lewis.

An example recently would be Junior Witter a fringe world class fighter who lost to Bradley and Bradley proved he was a world class fighter. Then prospects like Devon Alexander, Frankie Gavin have used him as a "gate" to world class fighters.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:26 PM
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You people are dumb mentioning pavlik and Cotto they are still Worldclass fighters. This is a gatekeeper! Note the diffrence in skill level people! Edner Cherry!

When a gate is opened it has to lead somewhere. Beating Ended Cherry leads nowhere. He's a journeyman. Cotto is now a gatekeeper. That doesn't mean he is no longer world class in my opinion. It just means he's older and headed out, therefore he's used as a measuring stick for younger prospects looking to enter the world class status.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:26 PM
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Berto, he is now the clear gate you have get past to get to Floyd.
he didnt come to mind for me... but now that you mentioned it its true this clown is a gatekeeper and its funny after every fight he talks crap saying big things being done, changes made for the best... looses to ortiz, has trouble with zavek, gets caught using peds, then looses to guerrero hahahahaa
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:38 PM
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Here are some real gatekeepers:

Kendall Holt
Peter Manfredo
Emmanuel Augustus
Alfonso Gomez
Erik Morales
Chop Chop Corely
Shane Mosley
Zab Judah
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:39 PM
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:42 PM
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:56 PM
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Here are some real gatekeepers:

Kendall Holt
Peter Manfredo
Emmanuel Augustus
Alfonso Gomez
Erik Morales
Chop Chop Corely
Shane Mosley
Zab Judah
I agree with Judah and Holt but the rest are just opponents. Shane is borderline but really needs to give it up.
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