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Old 01-13-2013, 08:27 PM
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I never thought very highly of Byrd, he is a gatekeeper at best in the 90's. But that and the first Peter win are Wlad's signature performances so far. Haye is the best fighter he has beaten for me, but overall underwhelming resume. Hopefully he can get the opportunity to put that right before his time is up.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:56 PM
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Byrd is much better than Haye.
Byrd didnt land a single significant shot on Wlad, pre or post Steward.



^^^as you can see Haye is twice as fast Byrd.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:18 PM
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Byrd didnt land a single significant shot on Wlad, pre or post Steward.



^^^as you can see Haye is twice as fast Byrd.
Haye barely landed a shot of worth on Wlad himself. i've heard tell of Haye being a small heavyweight, but Byrd is even smaller (won his Olympic medal at 165, started pro at LHW and was last seen as a cruiser) and competed most of his career against naturally bigger men (not true of Haye). Byrd is a much more skilled boxer than Haye and has a better HW resume. Haye is just pure speed and a punch. Byrd is the better fighter.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:22 PM
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To me its compilation of his dominance over the best HW has to offer however you may rate that rather than any signature win.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:33 PM
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Haye barely landed a shot of worth on Wlad himself. i've heard tell of Haye being a small heavyweight, but Byrd is even smaller (won his Olympic medal at 165, started pro at LHW and was last seen as a cruiser) and competed most of his career against naturally bigger men (not true of Haye). Byrd is a much more skilled boxer than Haye and has a better HW resume. Haye is just pure speed and a punch. Byrd is the better fighter.
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Haye is actually the 2nd smallest guy Wlad ever faced at 210 lbs. Byrd was 213 lbs.

Byrd had skills, but that doesnt make him the better fighter. Norton was more skilled than Foreman, and we saw what happened there.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:38 PM
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Idk how anyone could bring up Peter as his signature win, in Peter's very next fight he got schooled by James Toney lol.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:41 PM
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Haye is actually the 2nd smallest guy Wlad ever faced at 210 lbs. Byrd was 213 lbs.
we're talking natural size, not a small few pounds differentiating them against a common opponent. Byrd has weighed in under 210 for HW fights, made 175 near the end of his career.


Byrd is the better boxer, better fighter. prime Byrd would school Haye.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:47 PM
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we're talking natural size, not a small few pounds differentiating them against a common opponent. Byrd has weighed in under 210 for HW fights, made 175 near the end of his career.


Byrd is the better boxer, better fighter. prime Byrd would school Haye.
Then why couldnt he win more rounds than Haye in two fckin fights? Theres no guessing required here, we have video evidence Haye is faster and hurt Wlad more than Byrd could dream. Stop being an idiot.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:01 PM
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Which fight, if you had to choose just one, would you consider his signature win?
I believe it was his first fight with Sam Peter. He had been brutally KO'd twice in a short period, and everybody, including his brother Vitali, wanted him to quit. It was ony he who had faith enough inhiself. I distinctly recall that he eagerly grabbed that Peter fight, he actually looked for it. He said that since Peter was a KO expert he wanted the fight to prove to everybody that he, Klitschko, had a good chin, instead of what all his critics were saying. He said it on TV and in print.

And he proved his point, as he took quite a few solid wallops without blinking an eye. The 3 KD's he suffered were phony, as the analysts rightly pointed out. The first was a vicious rabbit-punch which Peter had been repeatedly doing,(by then he should have been DQ'd) the second was when Peter missed a left uppercut and grabbed him by the shoulder pushing him down, and the third was either a very slight graze, or a close miss. Klitschko was going very quickly backward because of Peter's last despairing rush, and he stumbled back into the ropes just as the punch missed, and bounced to the canvas. He was up by the count of 2 and continued on giving Peter a boxing lesson.

The Ref, Randy Neumann was hopeless, and Klitschko won every round in which there was not a KD against him. Really showed his class.

And since then, he has been unbeatable.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:26 PM
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Idk how anyone could bring up Peter as his signature win, in Peter's very next fight he got schooled by James Toney lol.
Peter was a remarkably unintelligent guy, and Klitschko destroyed his confidence in himself. He went downhill from then on.The slide could easily be seen in his succeeding fights. Klitschko nearly knocked him down in one of the last rounds, and his blueprint helped Toney to almost win.
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