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Old 01-13-2013, 02:07 PM
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yeah 'cuz naming their accomplishments is a clear indication of how skilled they were


read how the ts defined "unskilled" u thick *******
it absolutely is u idiot
what he should have said was fighters who "throw caution to the wind"

u really think its possible to win accomplish any of that with no skill ? why dont u try

the is absolutely no such thing as a unskilled word champion

closest thing i can think of is valuev whos size pretty much won him a title but even his is much more skilled than any of us

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Old 01-13-2013, 02:09 PM
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Didn't realise skill had anything to do with game plans. Yes, he lacked a defence but he used his footwork a lot of the time as a defensive tool. I didn't realise your entire game had to be good for you to be skilled either.
didn't realise we only focus on certain aspects to define a fighter as skilled...

anyway like i already said i was going by the ts' definition...which is why i quoted him
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:11 PM
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what he should have said was fighters who "throw caution to the wind"

the is absolutely no such thing as a unskilled word champion

closest thing i can think of is valuev whos size pretty much won him a title but even his is much more skilled than any of us
...in which case i wouldve agreed with u
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:15 PM
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:16 PM
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didn't realise we only focus on certain aspects to define a fighter as skilled...

anyway like i already said i was going by the ts' definition...which is why i quoted him
We focus on what that fighter has, Hatton didn't have a defence to rate.



Hatton never plodded forward with bad footwork, game-plan has nothing to do with a fighter - maybe she meant ring IQ. He was skilled at what he did, for a while, which got him to the top. Surely the fact that he had virtually no D but yet achieved what he did shows he more than made up for the areas he was lacking in?
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:17 PM
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:20 PM
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I wouldn't say he's not skilled but Mayorga comes to mind as far as going against the grain and doing things u wouldn't be taught in the gym like purposely letting a guy tee off on his face

this is a very good one.

mayorga was HUGE at WW, and probably took drugs to boil his body down to 147 for a weigh in. he had fast and heavy hands.

that said, he could hardly box. he hardly trained. he was never in shape.
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:23 PM
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We focus on what that fighter has, Hatton didn't have a defence to rate.



Hatton never plodded forward with bad footwork, game-plan has nothing to do with a fighter - maybe she meant ring IQ. He was skilled at what he did, for a while, which got him to the top.
errr no we don't...if i were to judge a boxer by his skill there'd be at least a dozen variables i'd test: adaptability, counterpunching, defense, footwork (like u mentioned) etc. u don't judge a basketball player more by how high he jumps than how well he shoots do u? u rate both...and if he can't shoot well...then that at least makes him lesser skilled

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Surely the fact that he had virtually no D but yet achieved what he did shows he more than made up for the areas he was lacking in?
thats one way of looking at it...another is if he had a D would he have lost to pac/may? wouldnt he have been fighting at the highest level for longer than he did? wouldnt he have accomplished more?
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