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Old 01-11-2013, 12:37 AM
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more importantly why are you a fan of a cheater ??
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:38 AM
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O lawdy you are dumber then the person in your sig LOL.

What berto done that makes you think this?

O is it that when he faced a weak minded ortiz who moved up and beat him to death?

Or was it when he fought a lightweight Robert Guerrero and got a prison beat down?

Or was it when he was on his way to losing to zanvec till the head butt won him the fight?

or was it win he showed his impressive skills against collazo (sacrism by the way) that made you come to this conculsion.


what can you point to that makes you think this other then your opinion?
i had berto losing by 1 point to ortiz

berto whupped the european for his belt and i think guerrero's dirty tactics threw berto from his gameplan
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:38 AM
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Berto is fast and can hit hard but only fights in spurts, has no boxing craft that I see, has no defense, buckles everytime he is touched on the chin even by non punchers....
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:39 AM
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Seems like a bait thread but i will bite. Berto is too short and will have the same problems fighting on the iside he currently does. Defense/ring iq needs to improve but it might be too late. He might be fun to watch with some good fighters but he cant win unless he makes changes.
I would disagree...

I don't think that's factor.....

Guys like Quintana have succeeded at 154 being short....

I just want to see where Berto is mentally....

I don't know if he's always used PEDs in the past or if it was a one time thing....
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:40 AM
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explain to me in detail why i'm wrong
Weak chin, crappy defense, bad footwork, Low boxer IQ,

Only thing he has is Power at (147) and hand speed.

Not enough to rule anything.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:40 AM
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more importantly why are you a fan of a cheater ??
berto never cheated though
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:41 AM
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A 2x Welterweight champ ''sucks''? okay playboy..........
isnt broner a 2x time champion ? is he equivalent of berto
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:42 AM
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berto never cheated though
he tested positive for an anabolic steroid after he requested osdt...

and this was for the Ortiz REMATCH, so whos to say he didnt cheat int he first one too?
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:43 AM
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isnt broner a 2x time champion ? is he equivalent of berto
berto is better then him just my 2 cent

also berto wasn't afraid of guerrero like broner
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:44 AM
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i had berto losing by 1 point to ortiz

berto whupped the european for his belt and i think guerrero's dirty tactics threw berto from his gameplan
thats 2 answers out of 5 questions, is it cause you just dont want to answer or you havent seen those fights?

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