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Old 01-14-2013, 10:59 AM #21
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Who is. Mark Johnson??
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:43 AM #22
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Who is. Mark Johnson??
Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson.
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Old 01-14-2013, 02:00 PM #23
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Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson.
It's actually Marc with a "c", and he's a borderline ATG.
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Agreed, otherwise they'll be letting in mediocrity and lessening the prestige.
They're already doing that. See: Arturo Gatti.
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It's actually Marc with a "c", and he's a borderline ATG.
His name is Marcellus but I believe he spells his shortened name as "Mark".

Not even close to an ATG IMO.

I don't even consider him HOF calibur.

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what about Veeraphol Sahaprom. he is a part of the golden bantamweight division. watanabe jiro is worth mention. pongsalek is in for sure. wajima koichi is worth mention as well. shibata kuniaki. i name so many asian fighters japanese mainly because these guys ruled the lower weight classes
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His name is Marcellus but I believe he spells his shortened name as "Mark".

Not even close to an ATG IMO.

I don't even consider him HOF calibur.
That's ridiculous. He's easily a top 10 all-time flyweight. He's the only modern fighter besides Alvarez who I'd give a chance of beating Finito. Carbajal wanted nothing to do with Too Sharp.

If he's not an ATG, then he's easy HOF.
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That's ridiculous. He's easily a top 10 all-time flyweight. He's the only modern fighter besides Alvarez who I'd give a chance of beating Finito. Carbajal wanted nothing to do with Too Sharp.

If he's not an ATG, then he's easy HOF.
Easily Top 10 all-time Flyweight? How so? Based on what?

His Flyweight run was lack luster at best. He only fought a handful of ranked fighters at the weight.

His run at Super-Flyweight was no better.

He was a good fighter, who was a P4P calibur fighter for a while.

ATG? Not even close, not even nearly close.

Like I said, he's not even a HOF calibur fighter in my eyes. Atleast resume wise.
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Easily Top 10 all-time Flyweight? How so? Based on what?

His Flyweight run was lack luster at best. He only fought a handful of ranked fighters at the weight.

His run at Super-Flyweight was no better.

He was a good fighter, who was a P4P calibur fighter for a while.

ATG? Not even close, not even nearly close.

Like I said, he's not even a HOF calibur fighter in my eyes. Atleast resume wise.
Had the talent. Didn't have the wins. I didn't vote for him for the Hall but it wasn't something I lost sleep over. Saying he was a HOFer isn't egregious. ATG? Top 10? It's a stretch. It assumes a LOT about his talent that wasn't totally proved. I think in the top 25 somewhere is fair.
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Had the talent. Didn't have the wins. I didn't vote for him for the Hall but it wasn't something I lost sleep over. Saying he was a HOFer isn't egregious. ATG? Top 10? It's a stretch. It assumes a LOT about his talent that wasn't totally proved. I think in the top 25 somewhere is fair.
He was talented and a good fighter. I wouldn't even say he was overly talented to be honest. But he was a good fighter.

I don't think he's a HOF calibur at all. I was quite shocked he was inducted.

Saying is an ATG or near ATG is absurd IMO.
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