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No, Floyd ducked everyone who might beat him.

Vernon Forrest

Kostya Tszyu

Joel Casamayor

Antonio Margarito

Joshua Clottey

Paul Williams

Shane Mosley (prime, Floyd waited until he was faded)

Miguel Cotto (prime, waited until he was faded)

Oscar de la Hoya (prime, waited until he was faded)

Manny Pacquiao (might fight him now since he's faded)

Sergio Martinez

Canelo Alvarez
Nice troll job.

Joshua Clottey.... lulz.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:58 AM
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Has anyone taken into account that marciano was 5'11 190lbs? do you really think he could have given up that type of size to the heavyweights today and still win? so basically you are saying that even as a modern day cruiserweight he could have beaten guys he would have given up almost 25 lbs and a couple inches too? Can we apply some logic to this?
Marciano would dismantle every heavyweight alive today save for the Brothers K, and even those fights would be wars.

Size means less and less the higher up you go. Heck, Joe Louis often came in under 200, and he'd put both Klitschkos in a coma.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:59 AM
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Nice troll job.

Joshua Clottey.... lulz.
Would have been a nice win for him after Clottey beat Zab.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:01 PM
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Because Ali is, resume or H2H wise. It's not even arguable.

Marciano was great and I have him in top10 all time HWs.
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Would have been a nice win for him after Clottey beat Zab.
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Would have been a nice win for him after Clottey beat Zab.
Exactly.

Clottey was a good welterweight. Let's not forget, he had a close fight with prime Cotto, some thought he deserved to win.

Floyd should have been fighting guys like Clottey, Margarito, and Williams in 2008 instead of going into hiding for two years.
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Marciano would dismantle every heavyweight alive today save for the Brothers K, and even those fights would be wars.

Size means less and less the higher up you go. Heck, Joe Louis often came in under 200, and he'd put both Klitschkos in a coma.
I cant get with that one. I think in this case people are Romanticising the past too much. neither joe louis nor marciano would be able to over come the reach of either of the Klits. Lets be real about this the weight divisions exist for a reason. Yes they were great in their time and given that the average heavyweight was around 200 lbs at the time it makes sense to say they were the greatest of their era.

Think about this george foreman in his prime was 6'4" 240 lbs so you really think a marciano or louis could have given up 5" and 50 lbs to foreman and still stood toe to toe with him? ( as neither were dancers)
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Has anyone taken into account that marciano was 5'11 190lbs? do you really think he could have given up that type of size to the heavyweights today and still win? so basically you are saying that even as a modern day cruiserweight he could have beaten guys he would have given up almost 25 lbs and a couple inches too? Can we apply some logic to this?
Well we did have the pleasure of watching Holyfield.
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Marciano would dismantle every heavyweight alive today save for the Brothers K, and even those fights would be wars.

Size means less and less the higher up you go. Heck, Joe Louis often came in under 200, and he'd put both Klitschkos in a coma.
Agreed! The fact the way Marciano faught, his head would be at the chest(taller), or head; which takes away from length and size. Frazier did it to Ali gave Ali his hardest fights (In their first broke Ali's Jaw) and Frazier did not have the chin Marciano had.
Marciano had a granite chin and dynamite in his fists. Not the fastest man but the toughest; and had an enormous heart!
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