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Old 01-03-2013, 09:32 AM
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The trolling around here is getting ridiculous.

I mean what's next.....Carl Froch and Mikkel Kessler have similar resume's to Floyd.....

Wlad's best wins were Chris Byrd and David Haye, along with a long list of average or well below average fighters, and not to mention he was KO'd by Sanders and Brewster in his prime.

This place is either trolling non stop or plain ignorant.
No where near his prime, not even close!

Trolling is going both ways. Lennox fans are trolling how bad Ks are. You can't have a single thread about Ks without some UK fan trolls about Lennox.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:35 AM
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Wladimir is a great HW of his time, he's the greatest HW since 2005, respect. But at no point of his career, green, prime, past prime, would Floyd ever lose to the level of opposition Wladimir lost to. Imagine Floyd losing to Tony Pep[which would still not be as bad as losing to Ross Purity], Henry Bruseles, and Zab Judah. Can you imagine that? Nope, you can't even imagine that, because Floyd was way too good and you know that. Even in your wildest dreams, you can't imagine that.

BTW the resume's are not even close, especially when you add in the accomplishments and losses.

Corrales, Hernandez, Castillo 2x, De La Hoya, Marquez, Mosley, Hatton, Cotto, Ortiz, Judah, Chavez, Gatti, Corley, Baldomir, Augustus, Sosa, Mitchell.

5 division champion, 4 Lineal titles[130(Hernandez), 135(Castillo), 147 x2(Baldomir, Mosley)], 2 Ring titles[135(Castillo), 147(Baldomir)].

Currently holds the WBC[147] and WBA[154] in two separate divisions, and is ranked #1 in both of those weight classes, at the same time.

Never lost a fight against any level of opponent, 43-0.

His upcoming fight will be for the vacant Ring 147 championship against #3 ranked Robert Guerrero.
this is why this thread makes no sense....Wlad didn't have the same caliber opponents available in his division...so to compare the 2 is absurb imo
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:37 AM
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How is this even.possible when floyds top 5 wins are better that vlads #1 win? Wtf goes on on this site?
HA! And what are Floyd's top, superior competition wins? A split decision vs a past prime...2007 Oscar De La Hoya? Zab Judah? Life and death with Castillo?

Do you really think anyone rates ANY of Mayweathers opponents highly besides Floyd fans? Felix Sturm dominated De la Hoya 3 years before Floyd fought him and before Hopkins fought him....Mayweather got a SD as I've said...


We gonna act like Cotto was in his prime? (Or Is an ATG for that matter)

5 loss Shane Mosley?

A midget in JMM?

Ricky Hatton? (Lol)

9 loss Carlos Baldomir?

3 loss Zab Judah?

6 loss Gatti?

Damarcus chop chop Corley???

Those are some SIGNATURE wins alright.....

Who are you to say those wins are better then anyone Wlads fought? Based on what exactly? I'd take a 6 year undisputed heavyweight title reign over that resume any day of the week.... Pls go


At least Wlad fought undefeated fighters and fought any and everyone who was put in front of him. Floyd? He targets the Latino with the biggest USA fan base.....so they can generate the most possible PPV revenue. Think about it, lets pretend Selcuk Aydin KO'd Guerrero Cold in their fight.... And was Floyd's mandatory. Do you think Floyd would of fought him? No, actually Mayweather fans would laugh at it and xall it absurd.....why? Because he doesn't have a "big enough following in the USA" to create good PPV numbers/revenue.... What other fighter does that? Why do you even think Floyd is entitled to that? He's not.... And most unbiased fight fans see that and call it out.... But to Floyd fans those people are called "haters" ....RIGHT

Sorry but you Mayweather fans are Absolutely BLINDED and think anyone he fights is "the top contender", just because....ignoring the fact that Floyd would NEVER fight anyone who can't bring him in a monster pay day. Since when does that deserve praise, respect...boxing resume wise? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he shouldn't wanna get paid.... Why risk your career and health when you can fight someone just to get paid good? But with that comes the fact of the matter that he doesn't fight the top fighters, he fights the biggest draw..... But again, Floyd fans will call those people haters....where as whoever isn't sucking on his nuts...call it how it is.

BRB VICTOR ORTIZ IS A WORLD CLASS FIGHTER BECAUSE HE HAS 1000000 Mexican-American fans who are willing to pay to watch him fight floyd..........say what?

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Old 01-03-2013, 10:00 AM
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prime or not. de la hoya, mosley, marquez, cotto are all hall of famers that floyd fought. corrales,judah,castillo,gatti,hatton were good fighters that floyd fought. who is it that wladmir has fought that ranks ahead of any of those fighters historically?
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:05 AM
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HA! And what are Floyd's top, superior competition wins? A split decision vs a past prime...2007 Oscar De La Hoya? Zab Judah? Life and death with Castillo?

Do you really think anyone rates ANY of Mayweathers opponents highly besides Floyd fans? Felix Sturm dominated De la Hoya 3 years before Floyd fought him and before Hopkins fought him....Mayweather got a SD as I've said...


We gonna act like Cotto was in his prime? (Or Is an ATG for that matter)

5 loss Shane Mosley?

A midget in JMM?

Ricky Hatton? (Lol)

9 loss Carlos Baldomir?

3 loss Zab Judah?

6 loss Gatti?

Damarcus chop chop Corley???

Those are some SIGNATURE wins alright.....

Who are you to say those wins are better then anyone Wlads fought? Based on what exactly? I'd take a 6 year undisputed heavyweight title reign over that resume any day of the week.... Pls go


At least Wlad fought undefeated fighters and fought any and everyone who was put in front of him. Floyd? He targets the Latino with the biggest USA fan base.....so they can generate the most possible PPV revenue. Think about it, lets pretend Selcuk Aydin KO'd Guerrero Cold in their fight.... And was Floyd's mandatory. Do you think Floyd would of fought him? No, actually Mayweather fans would laugh at it and xall it absurd.....why? Because he doesn't have a "big enough following in the USA" to create good PPV numbers/revenue.... What other fighter does that? Why do you even think Floyd is entitled to that? He's not.... And most unbiased fight fans see that and call it out.... But to Floyd fans those people are called "haters" ....RIGHT

Sorry but you Mayweather fans are Absolutely BLINDED and think anyone he fights is "the top contender", just because....ignoring the fact that Floyd would NEVER fight anyone who can't bring him in a monster pay day. Since when does that deserve praise, respect...boxing resume wise? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he shouldn't wanna get paid.... Why risk your career and health when you can fight someone just to get paid good? But with that comes the fact of the matter that he doesn't fight the top fighters, he fights the biggest draw..... But again, Floyd fans will call those people haters....where as whoever isn't sucking on his nuts...call it how it is.

BRB VICTOR ORTIZ IS A WORLD CLASS FIGHTER BECAUSE HE HAS 1000000 Mexican-American fans who are willing to pay to watch him fight floyd..........say what?


you ran down floyd's resume. now show me wladmir's resume. where are the good fighters. you can say the guy's floyd fought were past their prime but they all will be remembered. mosley, de la hoya, marquez, cotto. history will remember those fighters. we have already forgot about byrd, thompson, mormeck, brock, and every other fighter wladamir has ever fought. lets be honest!!!!
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:12 AM
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Wlad chose to fight better available opponents than Floyd did.

Wlad fought all the available bests in their primes. but... Floyd did beat much better fighters IMO.

So in absolute terms Floyd in relative terms Wlad.
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Won't be praised as one of the best, because in order to do that; you must have beat good competition but sadly the Klitschko brothers never have!
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Floyd Mayweather ducked too many fighters to be considered and ATG.

Vernon Forrest

Kostya Tszyu

Joel Casamayor

Antonio Margarito

Joshua Clottey

Paul Williams

Shane Mosley (prime version, Floyd waited until he was faded)

Miguel Cotto (prime, waited until he was faded)

Oscar de la Hoya (prime, waited until he was faded)

Manny Pacquiao (Floyd might fight him now since he's faded)

Sergio Martinez

Canelo Alvarez
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I do think so as well on top of the favoritism by the media. Look at the hype that we see here on the weights where it isn't American/black dominated...the lower weights and upper weights(CW), hardly non existent and somehow it's harder for them to get the attention they deserve.

Lot of those top HWs had crappy resumes too and get praised left and right. Look at Lewis, he was bigger than most of his opponents and feasted on out of prime guys but is praised like Jesus around here unless he's American like Ali and them.
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Their comments are going to be "you're racist" followed by more waaa waaa waaaa while sporting Broner/Floyd AVs.
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Don't forget RACIST people like Floyd and Broner. Their fans forgive them for their racism which is pathetic yet they wanna ride their high horses on here.
This guy was a poster of the year candidate???i mean really??
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