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Old 05-13-2010, 03:14 AM
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Cool Blood testing what is Fair and what is not for Pac?

Pacman doesn't completely refuse random blood testing. He did blood testing for Hatton, Morales,Delahoya etc. He even offered wants blood testing right after the fight in the locker room.

He doesn't want blood test close to the fight because he has lost once from morales fight 1, where the Nevada athletic committee lost his blood test, and had to blood test him a day before the actual fight with morales. Plus the fact that he wasn't able to use his gloves because morales insisted they both use the winnings pillow gloves not the cletto reyes punchers gloves, and the bloody cut made him lose the fight. We all know the next two fights with morales was a breeze. So knowing that experience in the past that it happened to him before he doesn't want that to happen again. Its a stigma that can effect his mental frame of mind going into a big fight. Especially a big fight like Pac vs. Mayweather

He believes he is weakened by it. Wether it is physical or mental. It is enough to be unconfident going into a big fight. Do you want an 80% pac going into a fight with mayweather? Don't you want Pacman and Mayweather fighting in their best form? If Pac is not in his 100% mindset going into the fight don't you think its not what we fans would want?

Have you guys ever taken blood before? Some military men squirm just getting blood, like little kids. And if you watch 24/7 mosely mayweather when mosely was taken blood. There were 3 vials full of blood not the droplet or the teaspoon that they where talking about.

Getting blood can pop a vain. And you all know boxer needs their arms to work perfectly. Especially in training. How can you train if your arm is sore from the injection that happened. Getting a blood test will stiffen your muscles. So how can pac train? when a guy like him relies on speed to win fights? Have you tried bending your arm back in forth after a blood test your muscles in your arms are stiff and swollen.

People are saying mosely wasn't affected with the blood testing during the mayweather fight. How can people say that when he surely gassed out and lost the fight?? Just on the 5th round alone his mouth was already open (watch it again if you don't believe me). Could be from being old or too much blood testing 8 times to be exact. ( we all know Mosely looked good against margarito. He had power stamina endurance. His mouth wasn't open for the whole 12 rounds. ) Which leads you to think at 37 y.o. fighting margario, he could have been aided with peds to be that good after all, we have reason to believe he was on one before. He is an admitted user. So if comparing mosely performance in both margarito mayweather fight. You can truly see that Mosely was a different fighter that night against mayweather, wether it is the blood testing, his age, or no peds to help him. He really looked gassed out after the 4th round. Thus showed that he really has no business in the ring @ 38.

Just to add again. If someone told you you had Aids how would you feel without any proof? Multiply that to a thousand people telling you you have aids even without proof how would you feel? Your being crucifed without any proof. Best bet is to protect yourself right? People have no right to give false accusation it hurts any person mentally.

A fighters mindset before a fight is important. It has to be 100% at all times. If you doubt yourself entering a fight you can die in there. It is a deadly sport. Fighting is also mental as well as physical. Drawing blood near a fight is enough to subconsiously hurt you mental frame of mind to some people pac can be one of those. he will be going in the fight mentally unprepared therefore not @ his best. Do you want an 80% Pac fighting a 100% mayweather? Ofcourse we want both of the @ 100% to give as the best fight that we want to see right?

Some people have fobias with needles, blood, spiders etc.. So you can't say just because your not, there is no one who is mentally affected by that.

These are just my thoughts that people should also understand about this issues.

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Old 05-13-2010, 03:16 AM
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Pacman doesn't completely refuse random blood testing. He did blood testing for Hatton, Morales,Delahoya etc. He even offered wants blood testing right after the fight in the locker room.

He doesn't want blood test close to the fight because he has lost once from morales fight 1 were the Nevada athletic committee lost his blood test and had to blood test him a day before the actual fight with morales. Plus the fact that he wasn't able to use his gloves because morales insisted they both use the winnings pillow gloves not the cletto reyes puncgers gloves, plus the bloody cut made him lose the fight. We all know the next two fights with morales was a breeze. knowing that happened to him before he doesn't want that to happen again. Its a stigma that can effect his mental frame of mind going into a big fight.

He believes he is weakened by it. Wether it is physical or mental. It is enough to be unconfident going into a big fight. Do you want an 80% pac going into a fight with mayweather? Don't you want Pacman and Mayweather fighting in their best form? If Pac is not in his 100% mindset going into the fight don't you think its not what we fans would want?

Have you guys ever taken blood before? Some military men squirm just getting blood, like little kids. And if you watch 24/7 mosely mayweather when mosely was taken blood. There were 3 vials full of blood not the droplet or the teaspoon that they where talking about.

Getting blood can pop a vain. And you all know boxer needs their arms to work perfectly. Especially in training. How can you train if your arm is sore from the injection that happened. Getting a blood test will stiffen your muscles. So how can pac train? when a guy like him relies on speed to win fights? Have you tried bending your arm back in forth after a blood test your muscles in your arms are stiff and swollen.

People are saying mosely wasn't affected with the blood testing during the mayweather fight. How can people say that when he surely gassed out and lost the fight?? Just on the 5th round alone his mouth was already open (watch it again if you don't believe me). Could be from being old or too much blood testing 8 times to be exact. ( we all know Mosely looked good against margarito. He had power stamina endurance. His mouth wasn't open for the whole 12 rounds. ) Which leads you to think at 37 y.o. fighting margario, he could have been aided with peds to be that good after all, we have reason to believe he was on one before. He is an admitted user. So if comparing mosely performance in both margarito mayweather fight. You can truly see that Mosely was a different fighter that night against mayweather, wether it is the blood testing, his age, or no peds to help him. He really looked gassed out after the 4th round. Thus showed that he really has no business in the ring @ 38.

Just to add again. If someone told you you had Aids how would you feel without any proof? Multiply that to a thousand people telling you you have aids even without proof how would you feel? Your being crucifed without any proof. Best bet is to protect yourself right? People have no right to give false accusation it hurts any person mentally.

A fighters mindset before a fight is important. It has to be 100% at all times. If you doubt yourself entering a fight you can die in there. It is a deadly sport. Fighting is also mental as well as physical. Drawing blood near a fight is enough to subconsiously hurt you mental frame of mind to some people pac can be one of those. he will be going in the fight mentally unprepared therefore not @ his best. Do you want an 80% Pac fighting a 100% mayweather? Ofcourse we want both of the @ 100% to give as the best fight that we want to see right?

Some people have fobias with needles, blood, spiders etc.. So you can't say just because your not, there is no one who is mentally affected by that.

These are just my thoughts that people should also understand about this issues.
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Old 05-13-2010, 03:16 AM
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hell yeah......floyd does'nt want it vs pac under commision rules!
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A fighters mindset before a fight is important. It has to be 100% at all times. If you doubt yourself entering a fight you can die in there. It is a deadly sport. Fighting is also mental as well as physical. Drawing blood near a fight is enough to subconsiously hurt you mental frame of mind to some people pac can be one of those. he will be going in the fight mentally unprepared therefore not @ his best. Do you want an 80% Pac fighting a 100% mayweather? Ofcourse we want both of the @ 100% to give as the best fight that we want to see right?

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Thats why that fat porker can go **** himself. **** Alexander Povetkin, and ****ers who want to ruin a fighters mindset. They are trying to gain a mental-edge, its called they are ******* and are afraid of the opponent infront of them and thats why they try to attack their mindset.
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Old 05-13-2010, 03:19 AM
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hell yeah......floyd does'nt want it vs pac under commision rules!
im not sure if you believe in facts and logic but if you do the entire arguement is ended in this, mosley beat the commission tests and was never caught until he admitted in court.
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Floyd said 40 have tired and 40 have fail. Suddenly when it came to Pacquiao who is easier then Marquez,' you must take OSDT or no fight'.

Malignaggi : If Pacquiao beat Cotto than he's the best fighter ever

Pacquiao beat Cotto = Malignaggi : Pacquiao is one PED...LOL
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Old 05-13-2010, 03:23 AM
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Floyd said 40 have tired and 40 have fail. Suddenly when it came to Pacquiao who is easier then Marquez,' you must take OSDT or no fight'.

Malignaggi : If Pacquiao beat Cotto than he's the best fighter ever

Pacquiao beat Cotto = Malignaggi : Pacquiao is one PED...LOL
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Old 05-13-2010, 04:18 AM
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im not sure if you believe in facts and logic but if you do the entire arguement is ended in this, mosley beat the commission tests and was never caught until he admitted in court.
there were tons of evidence for mosely's ass, he did'nt a choice but to admit!
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im not sure if you believe in facts and logic but if you do the entire arguement is ended in this, mosley beat the commission tests and was never caught until he admitted in court.
That pretty much sums up the state of the doping commissions.
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