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Old 12-30-2012, 07:05 PM
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valero no doubt , i dont think judah would've survived valero's offense and alexander would've prolly quit..

valero was a beast literally inside and outside the ring..
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:11 PM
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Matthysse KO win.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:18 PM
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Valero mops the floor with any guy from 130 to 140 except broner.

Valeros hand speed would had been too much for Mathysse to handle. Plus Valero's footwork was superb.

No doubt Valero owns him!
Nah, Marquez at 140 outboxes Valero. Broner might be able to outbox him, but who knows how Broner reacts to Valero's strength and punching power? The only way to beat Valero was to outbox him and stink the place out, which I don't see anyone other than Marquez doing.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:22 PM
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What was Valero's best win?
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:24 PM
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What was Valero's best win?
What was Tyson's best win? Marciano's? Calzaghe's? Hearns'? Hagler's? Shane Mosley's? Matthyse's?
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:24 PM
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I think Valeros animal instinct would've overcome Matthysse tenacity. Epic fantasy fight!
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:28 PM
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What was Tyson's best win? Marciano's? Calzaghe's? Hearns'? Hagler's? Shane Mosley's? Matthyse's?

What's your point?
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:38 PM
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Will take the proven world class operator over the shaky chinned gym myth in Valero.
so you going for the two weight world champion then...?
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:44 PM
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Valero was a legend and future ATG. Lucas is overrated by some posters in NSB.

it would be a good competitive fight before Valero smokes him
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:50 PM
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so you going for the two weight world champion then...?

No I am going for the guy who continually proves his worth by leveling solid top ten opposition and legitimate multi-weight world champions as opposed to the mentally unhinged 'two weight world champion' who never beat a top 10 fighter yet wins all these fantasy fights.

I hear all the time Valero would of beat Manny, Guzman, Matthysse etc etc all by K.O
What is it all based off? A sparring session over Antillion who was never really a great fighter anyway? A 100% K.O ratio over a load of nobodies?

Lucas would of tore him apart, hell Valero only had 2 or 3 fights at 135 against C level opposition. Too his credit yes he probably would rule 135 and would of since his death but that is only because the division is such a state.
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