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Old 12-29-2012, 08:15 AM
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been watching his fights.he turned pro at 18 & in exactly 2 years he was 29-0 & won his 1st world title. by the time he went to prison he was 24 years old 41-1 & had been undisputed HW champion & had been in 11 world title fights. he was on the cusp of a holyfield title fight after beating ruddock twice in eliminators but then he went to prison. when he returned he was never the same. he was 11-5 post prison & still got in 5 title shots but those were all because of who he was & not what he had done. after prison his best win was either botha, golota or bruno. i choose to remember the great tyson before prison because after he was living off of past glory. what he did by 24 will never be matched again in the HW division. other then ALI there has never been a boxer who was headline news in every paper & not just the front of the sports page. he was truly a phenom who didn't accomplish as must as he could have if he didn't go to prison & live such a troubled life.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:22 AM
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:30 AM
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I don't think there will be another person who did what Tyson did in the heavyweight division by the time he was 24. Salvador Sanchez is another who achieved a hell of a lot when he was only 23. Probably the biggest 'what if...' in this sport.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:02 AM
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Don't be so sure. In atleast another century scientists will have advanced cloning by then, probably.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:56 AM
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Tyson really was the product of a collection of forces that I don't see coming together any time in the near future.

a freakish natural physique that made him a match for adult males by the time he was 15. a tremendous natural talent for Boxing. Abnormal speed for a heavyweight. He came from the kind of brutal urban environment that actually doesn't exist in this country anymore ( The murder rate in New York in the late 70's and early 80's was 5 times what it was in 2012, and that's not even per capita, that's in raw numbers ). Finally that natural potential was honed by a breed of old school Boxing trainers that are quickly vanishing (in this case of course Cus D'amato) .

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Old 12-29-2012, 10:12 AM
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how many contenders are under 30 now? fury is 24 & there are not many others his age. david price has how many fights after 4 years in the sport? at 20 tyson was undisputed & by fury's age 42 fights, 11 world title fights & most with multiple belts on the line. fury's had 20 fights, domestic titles & one eliminator...i think the 90's are the last great era of HWs we will ever see. there are good fights to be made but so many HWs don't turn pro until their late 20s or early 30s so their longevity is short. tyson fury has a good chance of being the top dog for a stretch as long as they continue to get him meaningful fights & he beats some top prospects like price or wilder. in the 90s all 3 of these guys would have fought each other by now. guys like tyson won't come along again.

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how many contenders are under 30 now? fury is 24 & there are not many others his age. david price has how many fights after 4 years in the sport? at 20 tyson was undisputed & by fury's age 42 fights, 11 world title fights & most with multiple belts on the line. fury's had 20 fights, domestic titles & one eliminator...
It's unfair to compare Tyson to people like that. Plus talents like Tyson come through rarely in the entirety of the boxing divisions, let alone just the heavyweights. Not to mention it's currently a division which isn't strong in talent nor promises to be.

The fighters coming through now are talented, experienced European amateurs and they're turning professional much older. Even if we did have a special talent they wouldn't match Tyson for activity.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:27 AM
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It's unfair to compare Tyson to people like that. Plus talents like Tyson come through rarely in the entirety of the boxing divisions, let alone just the heavyweights. Not to mention it's currently a division which isn't strong in talent nor promises to be.

The fighters coming through now are talented, experienced European amateurs and they're turning professional much older. Even if we did have a special talent they wouldn't match Tyson for activity.
there are great fighters worldwide. i'm just saying they are turning pro much later then they use to. look at the top 50 HWs in the world. how many are under 30? that's the basis on why i say there will never be another tyson. what he did at that age is simply amazing until the train went off the tracks...
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in the 90s the only HW's who truly had great success in their 30's were the one's who were in great shape. tyson, holyfield, the klitschkos(today), lennox. they were always in shape(except lewis in a couple fights he took lightly)so they were still able to be a factor. most HWs are on a steady decline in their 30s if they were not always in the gym. most of the top contenders are in their 30s already & haven't accomplished much so it's now or never.
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